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Post by Mr. Thomas on Dec 17, 2013 10:10:28 GMT -5
Shakespeare gets butchered.
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Post by johnmarano on Dec 17, 2013 17:31:18 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
17 December 2013
C. Although I understood the chapters pretty well, I did question some things. I, as a reader, believe that the duke is up to no good. I think Huck believes this too because he is well aware that they are absolute liars of who they are. So why does he continue to help them? Huck is so much smarter than that. I mean what's not to say that the duke isn't planning to "scheme" Huck and Jim? Also, why does Huck not tell Jim that they are liars? I don't see why it is such a big deal. I also do not understand the whole shooting scenario. What is the significance or importance of it? Why does that matter? I felt like it was just to show how much Huck has seen at such a young age.
E. These past chapters have really kind of gave me a final judgement on Huck because of his certain reactions towards situations. Throughout the book I was really indecisive of who Huck was. I mean sometimes he would be so caring and genuine towards Jim and others, and sometimes he would be kind of heartless. Obviously, Huck knows that the two con men are lying about who they are. Similar to what Huck does... Ironic? In chapter 23, "day three" of the show, Huck again creates a plan to help someone in need. In this case, he is helping the duke get away from the mob. His reaction to devise a plan to help someone shows how much Huck really does care for the people who have recently entered his life. I am able to say I am a definite fan of Huck now because his reactions and smart decisions towards things really shows how kind he is. Also, don't forget how hard everything has been on him. Huck showing kindness is truly a beautiful thing especially considering that he has had such a rough life.
I. I didn't exactly agree on today's class discussion concerning Huck. My classmates were explaining how he is so young and that he stays with people who he needs, basically. I feel that Huck doesn't exactly need the Duke because he was managing on his own. The Duke has caused nothing but trouble and has been full of lies. I feel that mistakes are common with Huck and it bothers me because he is really so bright, but I also feel that he doesn't NEED anyone. Frank was saying how a baby needs a mom, true; but Huck isn't a baby anymore. He has seen the world in almost all of it points. I do not agree with Huck needing someone with him along his journey.
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Post by emmanuelluna on Dec 17, 2013 18:17:12 GMT -5
Emmanuel Luna
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/17/13
A. I enjoyed the scene where the duke and the king are practicing their Shakespeare and I can also relate it to what we have been learning in class about realism and Twain’s style of writing. It was funny how the duke and the king really messed up Romeo and Juliet and the fact that they messed up so much that they actually started acting out different plays like Macbeth and Hamlet. This also shows Twain’s style of writing by making fun of Shakespearian writing in a way that says that we should write about how things actually are instead of how they should be, like most of Shakespeare’s plays do.
D. I enjoyed the scene where all four of them are back on the raft and Jim is left to look out for anyone and warn them of it. When Huck wakes up he sees Jim distraught and finds out that he is actually homesick. Jim goes on to tell him a story about his daughter that I thought was funny because in his story he says that he asked her to close the door to their house, but ignores him. This makes him mad so he slaps her and later finds out that she was deaf. Although not heart-warming, it was definitely funny to think how awkward that was for him.
E. I didn’t like the part in chapter 21 where Sherburn shoots and kills Boggs for threatening him while drunk. I thought this scene was very macabre and dark because Boggs was a joke to everyone in the town because since he was always drunk, hi threats were actually not real threats, it was just him being drunk and annoying. So when Sherburn takes it too seriously and kills him I feel that the townspeople had every right to want to lynch him. I really hoped that they would lynch Sherburn because even if he is easily irritated he should know that Boggs is always drunk and annoying everyone so he should have handled it differently.
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Post by eointunney on Dec 17, 2013 19:14:36 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
17 December 2013
E. The one thing that really surprised me in chapter 21 was the scene where Sherburn kills Boggs by shooting him. Even though Boggs was threatening Sherburn, who is supposedly the toughest man in the village, Boggs never really means any harm. Everyone in the village takes Boggs as a joke because he is a drunk who would never actually do anything to hurt someone. Boggs is one of those guys who is all talk, and I guess Sherburn is too serious of a guy to take anything as a joke. I was also surprised when Sherburn called everyone in the village cowards, by saying they wouldn’t actually lynch him. I feel like if someone did this now that person would get pretty beat up.
D. In chapter 23 where Huck wakes up to Jim all upset about missing his wife and children. I thought this scene was extremely sad because it shows that hardship that Jim has had to endure while on this adventure with Huck. The part of the scene I felt was the saddest was when Jim tells Huck that he slapped his daughter ‘Lizabeth on the head for the not closing the door, but then he finds out that she is deaf and was not actually disobeying her father. Jim really opened up in this scene and I feel like Huck and Jim have now become closer than they were before. Because of this scene, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jim goes back to his home to try to run away with his family.
A. In this last scene of chapter 23 where Jim is opening up to Huck, we see that Jim cannot speak very well. The last scene was pretty hard to read and even though Huck does not speak too well either, I don’t know how he would understand Jim especially if he has some weird country accent. If someone today spoke like that to me and they had nothing wrong with them, I would most likely slap that person like Jim slapped his daughter.
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Post by frankclarke on Dec 17, 2013 19:58:13 GMT -5
Frank Clarke
Mr. Thomas
English 11
17 December 2013
E. At this point in the story, it’s getting pretty interesting/ entertaining. The Duke and King decide to put on a play at the next town they see and begin rehearsing on the raft, and both Huck and Jim find it pretty awesome. Coolest part of this chapter, by far, is when they find the carnival and set up posters advertising their reenactment. I just find this really cool how Mark Twain added this in. It really puts a lot of depth into the story and keeps them reading, asking themselves “What will happen after the play….How will they perform….?” Etc…
A. In this chapter we really see the town and its affairs consume the majority of Huck’s dialogue. We don’t really see Huck think, but rather him commenting on what’s happening in the community. This is also important to the rest of the story because we see Huck consumed in something else, rather than running. Both the Duke and King have made this story not only more exciting but have given it a lot of plot dept. Their dialogues and especially their desire to perform Shakespeare is clearly something that both Huck and Jim long for.
I. We’ve talked about the possibility of a father-son relationship between Huck and Jim (both ways) but now I pose the question: Is the king a father figure to Huck? The king is a lot older than Huck is and we see some instances where Huck may be looking up to him. For example, we talked about how Huck didn’t want to call the king out on actually being a king, but he didn’t. Is it a possibility that Huck may view the King as a father figure, and trying to protect him and his false identity, or maybe Huck is trying to formulate this false identity for himself and decides not to say anything in that respect.
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Post by fotia15 on Dec 17, 2013 20:25:38 GMT -5
1. why did they kill the man it really makes no sense. He was a monthly drunk who was just really sad. everyone was picking on him and yellen at him for no reason. Then they threaten to take his daughter.... like woo thats pretty weird. Did they kill him in front of the daughter. Plus who give this man the power to kill someone? was he some kind of policeman or can u just go around poppen people you dont like back then.
a. Sherburn is the biggest hypocrite. He saying he should be linched for killing a man who no one liked. " the idea of you lynching anybody! it's amusing. the idea of you thinking you had pluck enought to lynch a man! because you're brave enough to tar and feather poor friendless cast-out woment that come along here, did that makes you think you ha d grit enough tot lay your hands on a man?" What is wrong with him. When you kill someone for no reason usually you deserve to die -_-. Obviously a very stupid man.
e. I love how the people are all chanting to kill him. he deserves it. Its like a small riot breaking out. It reminds me of when i was at a concert and they wanted the main preform to come on and everyone started screaming and shouting his name and we got what we wanted.
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Post by epoccia on Dec 17, 2013 20:37:02 GMT -5
Eddie Poccia
English 11
Mr. Thomas
12/16/13
Chapters 21-23
I don't understand why Huck thinks that the two con artists are talented actors. They are obviously terrible actors since they are forgetting their lines and using lines from other plays to replace the ones they forgot. Maybe Huck is impressed because he has never been exposed to a play or actors before.
In the last chapter, Jim is upset and tells Huck about his daughter. I think this really shows the trust that they have for each other because Jim is able to open up about his personal life.
I didn't really get why the people in the town who got ripped off at the first play wanted to get the rest of the town ripped off as well. it seemed kind of spiteful to tell the rest of the town that the play was great so that they can get ripped off as well.
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Post by connor on Dec 17, 2013 20:52:09 GMT -5
Connor Ryan
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/17/18
D. I really enjoyed these three chapters. I like how we can see how strong Jim's relationship and trust toward Huck is. Jim says to Huck, "en it mine me er de time I treat my little Lizabeth so ornery"(199). Jim really opens up to Huck because he is talking about his family which is really personal for him. He has not opened up to Huck in this way before and it reveals to us how much he trusts him. Also it shows to us how much Jim misses his family. It something as little as a noise reminds him of his family they must always be on his mind.
I feel like when duke and king scam the town out of all that money at the play can relate to many commercials and things on TV. They are able to get the money form the people when they know that they are not seeing a show and right before the last night they leave so no one see them. This reminds me of all the different thing we see on tv. Most of the things advertised on tv are scams and people still buy the because it appeals to them.
C. I was confused about how the people who saw the show on the first night told everyone that it was good and that they should go see it. I did not make any sense that people would actually listen to them so that they could make money.
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Post by danokeefe15 on Dec 17, 2013 20:52:41 GMT -5
Danny O'Keefe
Mr. Thomas
English 11
17 December 2013
C. I generally understood what was going on in chapters 21 through 23, but allot of times I question why certain parts of the story are added and what it actually means. I didn't understand the significance of the drunk man getting shot and then the whole speech that Sherburn gave. I felt like it was random and once it was done it was done, nothing came of it and it didn't really effect the story that much.
D. part of the story that I liked was when the people from the town go to watch the play and they enjoy it and find it funny, but then find that they were just ripped off because of how short the play was. The reason why I liked it was because I felt like the audience's reaction was amusing, if i was sitting there I probably would have reacted completely different. the only thing i would have cared about is getting my money back or revenge, but these people went about it a completely different way and actually helped the con artists out.
E. In chapter 23 Jim talks about how much he misses his family and how that noise reminded him of how he beat his daughter because he thought she wasn't listening to him when in reality she literally couldn't hear. I feel like Jim is so innocent and oblivious to allot of things and we most of the time can't blame him for it, he still has no clue that the king and dauphin are fakes and sometimes doesn't know things because he isn't included in them.
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Post by matthewchan on Dec 17, 2013 21:39:10 GMT -5
Matthew Chan
Mr. Thomas
English 11
17 December 2013
A. It is pretty funny how the King and the Duke continue tricking people. It worked the first time when the King tricked a group of people from a revival meeting which led to him getting about $87. This time, their Shakespearean show doesn’t work out well and only a few people show up. This is pretty unique because the first time doing something for many people tend to work out while the second time it usually doesn’t work.
C. What was the significance of The Royal Nonesuch? It is funny how the people paying for the show doesn’t expect anything they pay for. The name of the show is also hilarious but true since there is nothing that goes on during the show. I also found the part where they said the show was not for children and women to see. I guess the men decided that they were going to see something that would be bad for women to see. It also is funny that the men that saw it told their friends to go see it so they wouldn’t be embarrassed.
E. I really enjoyed the part where Huck comments that he is surprised to find that Jim is almost as concerned about his family as a white person. Even though Huck is young, I don’t think he understands that there is no difference the way black people treat their family and the way white people treat theirs. Even though Jim is a slave, he still has feelings for his children and cares about them. Jim is concerned about his children more than Huck’s father was towards him which can make Huck pretty jealous.
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Post by poulong15 on Dec 17, 2013 22:11:24 GMT -5
Gregory Poulon
Mr. Thomas
Englihs-11
December 17, 2013
Chapters 21- 23
After reading chapter 21 I found it very humorous how first off, in the beginning of the story some of my classmates were comparing this story to Romeo and Juliet and now we have an actual showing of this. I started laughing when I first began to read about the to be or not to be soliloquy. It was very funny and I could not stop laughing. I also found it very humorous that Huck thought that these men had talent. Tom Sawyer writing this book is talent, not crude old man like Dauphin, saying these things? It is a very intriguing story, and I like were the author is taking us.
At the end of the same chapter, and at the beginning of chapter 22, it caught my attention that it is weird to just sit there, and watch this person who got shot die. I read it and I found it a little weird and out of the ordinary. I also got confused when the author talks about the mob. Why would there be a mob, after someone has just gotten shot? But other then this confusion I find the story very humorous and funny, and it is a joy to read.
I really like the last comment that my fellow pier Mathew Chan said. The theme of racial slurs plays a great role I this story time and time again. There are many times were the derogatory N word. The word is used in many other stories and is used in class. I feel like this is a word that still affects people’s lives today and needs to change. If people can think how Jim did in this one point in time, the issue we have in separation would be diminished.
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Post by bourdonm15 on Dec 17, 2013 22:34:11 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/17/13
B. These chapters were a little bit different than I figured they would be. All three of these chapters have more of a comical/enlightened tone than what I figured. The part that is funniest is when the two con artists are reciting lines from Shakespeare. “When he had got it pretty good him and the duke begun to practice it together. The duke had to learn him over and over again how to say every speech;” (Page 134). It was a clear use of Twain’s satire. He switches up the tone at just the right moments, considering the last couple of chapters were more on the suspenseful side and knowing this he switches the tone to sort of side-track the reader. It is very clever style of writing.
A. I related when the two con artists fooled people with such a brief show to how people sell non-authentic items. You think you are getting the genuine thing and it abruptly hits you that that isn’t the case. “What, is it over? Is that all? The duke says yes. Then there was a fine time. Everybody sings out, “Sold!” and rose up mad,” (Page 151). These people thought they were getting a genuine show but they didn’t just like when you buy and item that you think is genuine but it is not. The two con artists, the duke and the king, both get a good $465 tricking people. They are very sneaky.
I. I agree with Matt Chan’s comment on when Huck is surprised to find out that Jim is concerned about his family as a white person would be. It really shows how naïve Huck really is and how trapped he is in “a white man’s world”. He is starting to realize that everything is not the way he was taught it is.
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Post by Sgarlato on Dec 17, 2013 23:33:15 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/17/13
C. I was confused as to why Sherburn shot the drunk man. Was it because he was loud and boisterous or was it for some other reason. I understand if Sherburn got angry at the man for disturbing the peace because he was drunk but shooting him is a little too far. It also came out of nowhere that it happened. All of the people in the town just gathered around the dying man also like it was nothing. No one was screaming nor getting the police. They just decide to go after him and try to kill him
D. A part that I enjoyed was when the mob went to Sherburn’s house and allthat happens is Sherburn theatens them and they all leave. Like he stands outside with a rifle and tells the crowd that nobody is going to kill him in the daytime and then everybody disperses. He literally just told them what to do and they listened.
I. I agree with Danny O’Keefe when he says that the shooting of the old man and Sherburn’s speech was pointless but I believe that it will come up again later in the story. Like, Sherburn will reappear later as a main character and have an influence on Huck.
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Post by rodriguezj15 on Dec 18, 2013 0:41:22 GMT -5
Joel Rodriguez
Mr. Thomas
English 11
December 18, 2013
The Adventures of Huck Finn 21-23
A. The lines “I do believe he cared just as much for his people as white folks does for their’n. It don’t seem natural,” caught my eye (pg. 158). Basically Huck is saying that Jim cared for his family more than white people do for theirs. But most people would argue that Huck is racist because he’s saying that this love that Jim has isn’t natural. But I think it’s not his fault that he believes that, because he grew up being taught that. Jim was the widow’s slave, it was basically implied that Jim was less than. And remember he’s young, young people are very impressionable.
I. Today in class we were talking about how Huck knew that the duke and dauphin weren’t really real kings and dukes but frauds. We also talked about how whether if not Jim knew they were frauds. Well in Chapter 23 Jim asks Huck why them two act like that, and says ““But, Huck, dese kings o’ ourn is reglar rapscallions; dat’s jist what dey is; dey’s reglar rapscallions (pg.156).” Jim doesn’t know the duke and dauphin are frauds and Huck really find no point in telling Jim.
C. Does the town drunk have anything to do with Huck’s father? The fact that he was drunk and he had a daughter just make them sort of alike. And does Sherburn’s speech about bravery and cowardice is Mark Twain using the character to express his point of view?
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Post by michaelannunziata on Dec 18, 2013 11:58:40 GMT -5
Michael Annunziata
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/17/13
A. One thing that I cam relate to from this reading is when Jim was opening up to Huck. It shows that they are good friends and shows that they trust each other and they are getting very close with each other. I can relate to this because I have one of these friends were I can open up to them at any time anywhere. And it really is nice to have because it helps you with stress and any problems you have in your life. Every person deserves to have someone they can open up to because it helps get them through life.
D. These three chapters are most likely my favorite three chapters so far in the book for many reasons. One reason is because it shows how close Huck and Jim are getting and shows that they have each other’s back. With that being said the reader can see now that although they do have many disagreements and may fight and argue sometimes at the end of they day they are friends and they are going to have each others back. That’s why I like these three chapters so much compared to all of the others.
C. Like most people think throughout most of the things they watch or read there is always questions. My question to this reading is why Mark Twain adds unnecessary things in the book. I don’t know if the unnecessary things are going to mean something later on in the book; I just don’t know.
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