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Post by Mr. Thomas on Nov 13, 2013 11:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by johnmarano on Nov 13, 2013 16:25:14 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
13 November 2013
A. I want to point out something the narrator said that kind of relates to me personally. Towards the end of the viewing, he explains the difference between creativity and divergent thinking. I want to say his views are excellent. It really made me realize the type of person I am. I am a divergent thinker. I think of so many possible answers to problems. I am kind of the opposite of being creative. I wonder if I would be considered a genius at divergent thinking???
C. I overall like learning about our generation and the different perspectives on things that truly matter when discussing our life. One thing I do want to question is in the beginning of the video; the narrator says that children today believe that school isn’t important. Why does he say that? There are still people attending great colleges and high schools in order to find a job. Why is it that our generation is different from any generation? What or who is to say that it’s easier or harder? Why is he basically speaking for me? If I didn’t care about school would I be busting my butt each day in Xavier? Compete disagreement.
D. I really like how the narrator is explaining ADHD. During the video, he includes that there is a thing called aesthetic experience. This experience means that one’s senses are operating at their peak. It basically means we are fully alive. I enjoy how he compared it to an anesthetic, which is the complete opposite. He goes on to explain that a lot of people are using these prescribed “drugs” and putting their children through school. I agree with the narrator ON THAT people shouldn’t be “putting the children asleep, they should be waking them up.” I felt that this was important because it means that a person should, even will have more interest going “alive”.
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Post by poulong15 on Nov 13, 2013 17:36:39 GMT -5
Gregory Poulon Mr. Thomas
English 11
13 November 2013
RAS Animate- Changing Education Paradigms After watching the video on what this man thinks about our learning techniques, it really stood out to me that this is a very large problem that many of us have today. As the video went on, and really got to its core it began to feel that this happens in a particular one of my classes. It’s all about the factory like he tells us. Its bout the year you are manufactured if you will. Sitting in a classroom just to hear your teacher talk and no one else is not a learning environment that you want to be in. The narrator does a very good job of depicting some of these key aspects in his drawing and this is why I really grasped what he was trying to say about it.
There were two things that really stood out to me, and the two things that I think are the most important. First I agree with what he talks about our learning methods having dated back all the way to the enlightenment period. Our learning techniques have not changed in so long, and with our world evolving how do you think kids today can relate to these things. The second thing that real stood out to me was the analogy that the narrator portrays to us about school being similar to a factory. He says that everything has to be the same, with going form subject to subject, and having that manufactured year. The narrator brings many good problems up, that kids face today. There were many good points that the narrator brings up that I can relate to, but there was one specific thing, that happens today to many people. There are many instances were teachers believe that the best way of teaching is giving tests everyday and making the students repeat what they say. The narrator brings up a good percentage of people who the state tested. He goes on to prove his point that as a person grew 5 years; they still began to receive the same grade. This topic is a very frightening subject to talk about and is quite embarrassing to out country.
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Post by emmanuelluna on Nov 13, 2013 18:07:14 GMT -5
Emmanuel Luna
Mr. Thomas
English 11
11/13/13
D. I really enjoyed when the narrator said that ADHD is just used to basically silence children and preventing them from achieving their full potential. This really stood out to me because I do believe that by prescribing drugs to kids, who might actually want to learn but just don’t find the material compelling, is causing more harm than good because they are limiting their capability to envision things beyond what is just commonly believed as correct.
E. I also enjoyed when he said that the education system we have now is flawed because it is not based on what is relevant today, but is still based on what was present and relevant during the time period that our education system was formed. I also believe that if we were to change the system so that it becomes more pertinent to what goes on nowadays instead of what used to be.
I. To answer Johns’ question about why the narrator said that kids today don’t care about school, I believe that he said this because a good education, while still important, doesn’t necessarily guarantee someone a job in our economy. It helps make them stand out but that doesn’t mean that they will get a good job just because of their education. I agree with John that people still care about their education and want to look for a good job, but it is just so competitive in our current economy that some people just give up and ultimately stop caring about their educations.
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Post by 1adams12 on Nov 13, 2013 18:19:01 GMT -5
11/13/13
A. I personally agree with this because I knew friends who used to take pills just to pay attention in class. Even though they took the pills, they used to swear that it did not help at all. They used to claim that it was school in general that was boring because of hearing the teacher drone on and on. I know for a fact that I learn better doing hands on work instead of listening to a teacher preaching or talking to us about the subject.
B. The significance of this video was to say that the school system is out of date, and it is not the students fault that they lose interest easily. The video was also created to say that the school system should change and not continue the old system because the kids have changed and have more distractions. Students who have ADHD should not be popping pills to try to concentrate in school when the school system is the one at fault and not the students.
D. One of my favorite lines of the video was the fact that "ADHD is not an epidemic". I personally agree with this because I know that I myself lose concentration if my mind wanders somewhere else. I also know that in order for me to concentrate, I work better with my hands than to hear a teacher talk or preach about the subject that they are paid to teach to the students. I also know that students sometimes wonder if there is another way to learn than to hear the teachers talk, no offense to the teachers here.
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Post by seandelossantos on Nov 13, 2013 18:29:22 GMT -5
Sean de los Santos Mr. Thomas English 11: American Lit 13 November 2013
A. This video does relate to the education of today for many real and different reasons. I think it is true that school really is like an assembly line and a factory. Different facilities and different parts of management, all are true about school. It is also true how we as a community are conditioned to think that we should work to go to school and have a job. Although I can also see in my generation a lot of kids who generally just don’t care for education and school all together. It is true about our education in which we should not truly make it aesthetically pleasing, but we should just let kids learn their way in which they can find things out for themselves in their own special way.
C. This video really did cause me to think and question all of our education, and the reason behind everything about it. Why is our education based solely on the point of making money? I can see that our education just wants us to get ready to make money. I can see that is an essential part of our lives, but it isn’t really everything in my own opinion.
E. One idea I looked at in the video was the idea of changing our learning. We are forced to sit through many of these really boring classes and he says that we should change this fact. I can see how we can make our education more enjoyable through the theories of the narrator. Everything is true about his theories. We should not keep drugging our community to listen to this boring stuff. We should somehow make education more enjoyable.
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Post by eointunney on Nov 13, 2013 19:06:00 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney Mr. Thomas English 11 13 November 2013
D. I really liked the speaker’s comments on how kids are becoming distracted because the stuff we are learning is boring. I totally agree with the speaker because most of the stuff we do learn in school is extremely boring and makes you want to fall asleep. Also I felt this connected with the educational system in Ireland. In Ireland the educational system is extremely different. In a normal secondary school they take courses such as woodworks. Incorporating more real world situated classes would definitely enhance the interest in learning.
A. I felt I could really connect to what the narrator was saying about we go to school is to get into a good college, which we think will automatically lead us to getting a good job. I feel this concept of school causes a lot of stress, and more often than not leads to failure. I feel the United States stresses some subjects way too much. I feel that going to the best college shouldn’t mean that you are automatically better and smarter than everyone. For example my father went to a small interior contracting school in a little town in Ireland and now he is a pretty successful man. I feel this shows that America needs to change the way they educate their citizens.
E. I really enjoyed the narrator’s comments on standardized testing. The narrator said we should turn away from standardized testing. In all honesty I believe the SAT is the biggest joke of a test. I feel this way because in the United States, one test determines the rest of your life. I feel they should change the SAT. Well at least change the stories and sentences to things that people enjoy reading about. If the College Board actually did this, I feel there would be an immense change in the scores people get.
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Post by danokeefe15 on Nov 13, 2013 19:35:18 GMT -5
Danny O’Keefe
Mr. Thomas
English 11
13 November 2013
C. A question/critique that came to me while watching this video was when he started talking about what students think about school and how now people don’t need to go to college to get a job. I don’t exactly agree with this because I feel like college is more needed now to get a job than it used to be. I know adults than never went to college or didn’t go to the best college and still ended up getting a decent job, but now I feel like I never hear that. I feel like when people hear someone say that they aren’t going to college now it’s almost like they will never get a job.
D. Part of the video that I liked and found very interesting was the part about ADHD. I’m not saying that I have ADHD, but I found it to be relatable because I tend to procrastinate a lot and tend to lose interest. I also liked how he gave examples of the things that we are distracted by and how we are continuously getting in trouble for not staying focused.
E. Overall I found the video to be extremely interesting. I agreed with almost all of what the video spoke about and how I could relate certain things to the type of student that I am. I liked when he spoke about the change in time and that just because it worked in the beginning doesn’t mean it’s going to work now, and how times have changed.
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Post by bourdonm15 on Nov 13, 2013 20:14:00 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon Mr. Thomas English 11 11/13/13 A. I agree with everything the speaker of the video pointed out, but I enjoyed one particular part. I was not surprised when he shows that the people tested for being geniuses due to divergent thinking was so high but lowered as they got older. That is the main problem with education today, schools are not teaching children what is important and useful throughout their life, and they just give them a math problem and hope they learn it. Every person is different in the way that they learn and the school system isn’t actually teaching our generation how to succeed in life but rather they have us as slaves to a problem or fact that will do us no use throughout the rest of our lives. E. I really enjoyed the speaker’s comments on the steps of life. We all know that according to teachers, parents, and even society in general, we have to work hard, do well, and then get into college and get a job after that. It is true that even though it is helpful, it isn’t a guarantee that you will get a good job even with a degree. The way that this is classified is if you are “book-smart” rather than if you are intellectual and intelligent in general. The way society and those that run the education are teaching the children of this generation is setting us up for failure. They are hindering us from being creative and intellectual and instead limiting us to just being “book-smart” for example knowing when was George Washington’s birthday. This goes back to his comments on how more students learn better in groups than individually. When you express your ideas with others in a particular setting, you are all exchanging ideas and giving more than one answer to a question, which is doing “Divergent Thinking”. B. I really agreed with his comment on how society and those that run the education are anaesthetizing those with ADHD. They are not allowing these people with this disorder to learn the way they can and the way they feel comfortable learning and they are making them learn a certain way. These people are hurting those with the disorder because they are making medicine act as if it is the solution to learning a certain way. Everyone’s way of learning is different and the “educators”, if that is what they really are, don’t respect that. I can see why the rate of ADHD has risen through standardized testing. They are sitting someone down in one spot for a certain amount of time and expect that this will test a person’s knowledge. Again this only tests how “book-smart” or savvy someone is at a certain subject, it doesn’t test their knowledge. I really feel like for an intellectual there is always different ways of looking at a situation. Like this Discussion Board does, it provides different views and answers to the situation or topic and is a form of Divergent Thinking.
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Post by matthewko on Nov 13, 2013 20:27:10 GMT -5
Matthew Ko Mr. Thomas English 11 14 October 2013
A. This clip relates to society in todays world. His points on level of intelligence is a stupid point to point out. The people who are working for a moving company might not be as smart as a professor but yet without that person who is helping the economy grow, a world full of professors wouldn't bring an even better economy... We need an accumulation of different kinds of revenue to gain a profit and not just have a specific kind of "boring" intelligence.
D. I enjoyed the statistic in which the clip states that we have been anesthetized into creating a somewhat made out path that everyone must go through. His idea of divergent thinking can play a great role because if we figure out the possibility of all the outcomes, we will know what to do in the upcoming economy. Obviously our economy isn't at its peak right now so we need some more divergent thinkers in this world. The education system is making us take general education system with only one route and that may lead us away from a better economy.
E. This overall clip was very significant because this shows us how as we grow up, we are getting nailed down into less of a divergent mind. We need to explore all options and then figure out which is the right choice. This can relate to ethics as well because we see what the different outcomes will bring us and for the most part, we pick the good one. Everyone always states the next generation is our hope so why not let us reach that goal with new ideas (not the old concrete system).
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Post by matthewchan on Nov 13, 2013 20:29:08 GMT -5
Matthew Chan Mr. Thomas English 11 13 November 2013
A. Everything in this video is 100% true. It is not the child’s fault if he or she does not do well in school. It is everything around us. Computers, iPhones, advertisings, and the hundred channels on televisions are some examples that can affect and hurt a child’s way of learning. Today in the 21st century, many things have changed. Many people are now addicted to all the new types of technology and games and they do not focus on school work. They come to school the next day talking about what happened last night on television but many don’t focus on their school work. C. Should the education system change? Right now, students go to school and have most classes with students who are the same age. However, shouldn’t it be based on a student’s strength instead of age group. If the education system allowed students to work with their strengths, many would be very successful and would pass school with a breeze. Shouldn’t education be fun for children instead of making them suffer through hardships and difficulties? E. I really enjoyed the part where the video described schools as a factory. There are bells, separate facilities, separate subjects, and schools still educate students by batches or by age. This really shows us that the education system needs to change because this is unhealthy for children and I believe we are treated like robots. When a bell rings, it means class ends. When the bell rings, it means class starts. Why do we need bells? Can’t schools treat kids with freedom and independence? I believe in a few years, many schools will change their education system.
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Post by djmat on Nov 13, 2013 21:45:22 GMT -5
Dj Mat Mr. Thomas English 11 13 November 2013
I. I kind of disagree with Matthew Chan. I do not think it is 100% true that a child is not to be blamed for not doing well in school. There are also other factors included into why they may not do as well as they should be doing. We also have to take into account things such as discipline at home and personalities also play a huge part. Some of us may have brothers or sisters that do not do well or do better than we do in school and were brought up the same way. So all in all I do not think that it is entirely modern day technologies fault.
C. One thing that i found interesting but really wanted to know more about was the adhd topic he brought up. Is it actually true the amount or people that have adhd increases from the mid west to the east coast? If that is completely true then why is that? If it is actually caused by the amount of technology compared to the boring work that is presented to student then is adhd actually a thing? There are so many good points that he brings up but some of the things he brings up are debatable.
A. This is actually a great topic for current debate because it does seem like its the right time to change or education system so that it integrates into modern day. There has to be more of a reason or a bigger drive for children or students to go to school and the the way things are taught. Yes the system has not been changed in years and it is standard now but it is possible to change things little by little.
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Post by johnrice on Nov 13, 2013 21:47:39 GMT -5
John Rice Mr. Thomas English 11 11.13.14 RSA- Changing Educational ParadigmsD. I think my favorite line or concept that the Sir Ken Robinson was the fact that ADHD is a fictional epedemic. I completely agree with was Sir Ken Robinson was saying. ADHD is what I like to call a boy being a boy syndrome. Honestly most ADHD diagnoses are given to boys at a young age. They cant stay focused or they are bouncing off the walls, and crazy parents think their child has ADHD. When the doctors "test" them its basically set in stone that they will be diagnosed. Then they are given adderall, which calms a person down whether they have ADHD or not. I find this the most aggrevating part, I mean a doctors prescribes a drug that will affect a child whether they need the drug or not. So now we have children all over the east coast mostly who are being diagnosed with ADHD, and now in the second grade they are popping pills of adderall every day before school to? To do what? make them focus more? Oh that makes sense because when I was in second grade it was basically like Harvard I had to focus so hard. A. Well now that I am done with that rant about ADHD i would like to relate something that was said in the narration to a modern day movement. Sir Ken Robinson said that our education system was based off of the intellectual culture of the enlightenment and based off the economical circumstance of the industrial revolution. Now we are in 2013 so obviously that needs to change. Sir Ken Robinson hints at this by saying we must raise our standards. I believe that this is being done in a more relevant movement in educational systems today. More and more schools are moving towards technological based learning. Some Letter: Im not sure what letter corresponds with responding to a character, but I am going to respond to Sir Ken Robinson. I really like this guys! I love the way he thinks about education. His ideas are ones that will continue to change the way we view education and all traditional teachers (not a shot at you Mr. Thomas) should take a look into this video. Thanks Sir Ken Robinson!!
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Post by connor on Nov 13, 2013 22:00:40 GMT -5
Connor Ryan Mr. Thomas English 11 11/13/13 D. My favorite thing of the YouTube video clip was the set up of the video. It was really appealing and kept me how they drew pictures out for everything. The favorite idea that was in the video was the facts about ADHD. It was interesting to learn the ADHD is more common on the east coast. I liked how he pointed out that these prescribed drugs are just getting the kids through school. The children should be excited and full of energy going to school. C. One thing I did not agree with is how he believes that our generation is different from the past generations. He says that we believe that school is not important. I totally disagree with that because personally I think school is very important. I also think that most children believe that school is important to get a job when you graduate. Every kid who goes to school on a daily basic has to believe that school is important because then he wouldn't go. People would not care at all and everybody's grade would be horrible. A. One thing that I feel I can personally relate with is how he is arguing against the fact that the most important thing you have in common with someone is your age. I feel like grades should not be decided by your age, but by how smart you are. There are many people in younger grades who are a lot smarter then the kids in higher grades.
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Post by epoccia on Nov 13, 2013 22:23:58 GMT -5
Eddie Poccia
Mr. Thomas
English 11
11/13/13
Changing Education Paradigms
D. I really agreed with the things that Sir Ken Robinson said in this video. Honestly, sometimes I just hate going to school and this video really opened my eyes to the faults of our education system. I really think that there has to be a better way to educate children and a better wsy to keep them more interested in learning.
E. i liked the part when Robinson talked about the study that he did about education. He said that he tested children in kindergarten and 98% of them were ranked as geniuses. However, as they grew older and they became more educated, this percentage decreased greatly. This provess that everyone has the ability to be a genius, but our education system takes away from that as people go through school.
C. I completely agree with everything Sir Ken Robinson stands for, but I want to know what he wants the education sytem to be like if it is changed. If the education system is changed, I think the world will change as well. This is just something he doesn't mention in the video and it made me curious.
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