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Post by Mr. Thomas on Dec 6, 2013 15:53:08 GMT -5
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Post by emmanuelluna on Dec 7, 2013 21:37:39 GMT -5
Emmanuel Luna
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12/6/13
D. I enjoyed Huck’s well formulated plan that he made to escape the cabin because it shows how intelligent Huck is and how stupid Pap is. His plan includes using a canoe that he found lying around and faking a break in as well as faking his own death. Pap being incredibly drunk and stupid doesn’t notice the canoe that was a couple of steps from the path he was on. This combination of his intelligent planning and his father’s stupidity and obliviousness makes for an apparently successful plan.
E. I enjoyed the scene where we see Jim and Huck on Jackson Island because they get to know each other better as well as exchange stories. We learn that Jim ran away the same day as Huck because he had heard that he was going to be sold to a new family at New Orleans and he was afraid of being separated from his actual family. During this scene I begin to see the parallelism between Huck and Jim because what are the odds of them running away at the same time to the same place.
I. I can relate Joel’s comment in class about transcendentalism to the scene where Huck escapes to the island. He was running away from his father but still he was escaping to a secluded place to get away from the corruption of society, much like Joel said in class.
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Post by johnmarano on Dec 8, 2013 9:53:33 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
8 December 2013
B. I was kind of mad in chapter 7, or maybe surprised. I was hoping that Huck would eliminate all of his problems with one shot at his dad. I mean the story does talk about how insane and abusive Pap was. Huck had the perfect opportunity to just kill him. I don’t even know why he didn’t. It’s not like he had some heart-warming memories with the guy! He is constantly living in fear because of this man and now things will never go away. Huck will have to deal with the fact that his abusive “father” is still, and always will be, around. I was completely stunned because it is human nature to diminish what causes pain. Huck just couldn’t do it I guess. D. In chapter 9, I would love to point out how Huck and Jim are exploring their new home. What is crazy shocking to me is when they see the dead man. “It’s a dead man. Yes, indeedy: naked to. He’s ben shot in de back. I reck’n he’s ben dead two er three days. Come in, Huck…” (ch 9, 71). I find this so ironic. I mean Huck sees a dead man right him front of him and it seems to not bother him much. I would have been going insane if I looked at a dead body in our “house.” I guess the wilderness changes a man or Huck just simply adapted to his new life. Why does Jim tell Huck not to look at the face? I mean the dead body is just as “gashly” as the face. I. Chapter 8 really backs up my thought on freedom being a central theme to the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. We now see Huck away from his problems and Jim away from his problems. It is almost crazy to draw connections to this. Huck was looking for a way to escape his previous life and honestly start fresh and Jim dreams of a freed man. Both characters have problems that hold them back from experiencing life. Their great escape proves how each character is a step forward to once again gaining that inner-self freedom. This theme is perfect for the book because it shows constant struggles that Huck had to overcome and it even answers many questions about Huck.
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Post by matthewsegarra on Dec 8, 2013 13:00:40 GMT -5
Matthew Segarra Mr. Thomas English 11 9 December 2013
D. I liked the escape plan Huck made up, it showed his cunning and his intelligence. I think the way he faked his own death was genius. He completely caught Pap slipping. This is one of my favorite parts of the story so far.
E. I liked the scene where Jim and Huck were talking on the Island. I saw a connection between the two as they were telling each other stories. It turns out that they both ran away from their families on the same day. I think we will seem Jim and Huck's paths intertwine as the story goes on.
I. I think that there is transcendentalism in this story just like Joel said in class. He was trying to get away from society to be alone in solitude.
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Post by eointunney on Dec 8, 2013 16:47:15 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney Mr. Thomas English 11 7 December 2013
D. I really enjoyed all of Huck’s escape plan. It is a purely genius plan and shows how intelligent Huck actually is. His whole plan really portrays has idiotic his father his, since the boat that Huck found would have been found easily by anyone that was any bit smart. I also liked how Huck didn’t end up killing his father because it makes the book a little more exciting since we know that something may happen with Huck and his father later on in the story.
I. Responding to how John said that he was angry that Huck didn’t shoot his father when he had a chance to. I felt that the main reason why Huck didn’t kill his father is because it’s his father. It is extremely difficult to kill a person, but that person being a family member makes it even harder. I think Huck didn’t kill him as well because he is giving his father a second chance and he hopes he will change for the better.
E. I found it extremely interesting that Jim and Huck happened to end up running away at the same time and going to the same island to hide out. I feel now that Jim is with Huck, it will be harder for Huck to stay hidden because Jim is a runaway slave. If Huck and Jim are found, Jim will be sent back to the widow and most likely sold; while Huck will get in trouble for the fact that he knows a slave ran away and he is keeping it a secret.
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Post by frankclarke on Dec 8, 2013 17:18:35 GMT -5
Frank Clarke
Mr. Thomas
English 11
8 December 2013
D. Huck’s escape plan proved to us his ingenuity, as well as his desire to get away from the cabin. He also proved to us how patience is key in everything. Hopefully no one I know will ever get kidnapped, but it is important to plan things accordingly and precisely. It is key to never jump into anything without having a well-thought out plan. Indecision kills!
I. John has mentioned in class on Friday that he was confused on why Huck didn’t kill his father when he had the chance too. Personally, I don’t think Huck has it in him to kill anyone, let alone his father. Even if Huck despised him, I would find it extremely painful to even contemplate killing a family member, especially committing the crime. I think this shows another great attribute accounted for Huck, even though it is assumed you should never kill your family members, it is a book and does say something about his characteristics.
A. When I was younger I used to have the most intense games of cops and robbers, and the story of Huck escaping reminds me of all the ingenious plans my buddies and I came up with if either of us would get captured. There is a big tree right next to my home in Pennsylvania, and that’s where the “jail” was, and this one time I climbed to the top of the tree and jumped off onto the roof of my home, ran to the other side and jumped down. It was quite exhilarating.
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Post by matthewchan on Dec 8, 2013 20:47:11 GMT -5
Matthew Chan Mr. Thomas English 11 8 December 2013
A. It’s about time Huck runs away from Pap. This reminds me of today’s world how some people try to run away from their family or other people because of a bad relationship or because of a problem. Many people are afraid to run away because they do not know what will happen next or what will happen to them. I am happy for Huck because he deserves to be away from his horrible father and restart his life again. E. When Jim sees Pap dead, he said he was shot in the back maybe because he was trying to rob the house. This shows that Pap has not learned anything from the beginning and has not changed. All Pap cared about was getting money and getting drunk. Personally, I think Pap deserved to die because he was not doing anything to help himself even after Huck left him. C. Why didn’t Jim tell Huck about Pap’s death? Was Jim trying to be a good friend by not saying anything at all or was he going to wait for the right moment? I think if Jim told Huck about it, he wouldn’t care and would be happy. However, if I was Jim, I would have told Huck even though if they didn’t have a good relationship.
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Post by 1adams12 on Dec 8, 2013 21:10:19 GMT -5
12/8/13
A. I have personally wanted to run away from home at times. I have thought about it and I am also hesitant just like Huck Finn. The only difference is that he actually runs away and I don't. He runs away when everyone is asleep, or what Huck thought, so he can run away and no one can follow him and have an idea where he is going. Huck runs away to an island which can be convenient for him and not convenient for him, depending on what he is trying to do. Back to the relationship between me and Huck Finn, me and him are alike because if I was to run away, I would probably think about running away to an island only because of the fact that no one would suspect it.
C. One thing that I didn't understand was the fact that Huck Finn finally decides to run away. The thing that confused me was the fact that Huck Finn finally decided to leave. I know that he has been thinking about running away, but what really makes him run away this time? Is it the fact that he does not have to walk, and that he can get to a place that no one will suspect of? Also, would Finn not be found out eventually through people going up and down the river? I personally wouldn't want to go on an island that I did not know if I have enough food or not.
D. The lines that I really liked were on page 34 in my book. The lines were "The sky looks ever so deep when you lay down on your back in the moonshine; I never knowed it before. And how far a body can hear on the water on such nights! I heard people talking at the ferry landing. I heard what they said, too -- every word of it." The reason why I like these lines is because of the fact that they are really descriptive. I can picture a clear dark night up state, with a body of water which is pitch black, and the only light source you have is the light from the stars. The islands are right in the middle and there is land on the other side of the river where people can hide and not be seen. There are trees and shrubs on that side, where you can hide your boat, canoe in Huck's case.
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Post by bourdonm15 on Dec 8, 2013 22:45:02 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon Mr. Thomas English 11 12/8/13 B. I feel like the plan that Huck came up with to trick Pap into believing that he was no longer alive was actually pretty clever. “Well, last I pulled out some of my hair, and blooded the ax good, and stuck it on the back side, and slung the ax in the corner.” (Page 33) It is interesting to see how Huck treats the situation and how smart he really is. Uneducated or educated, he has proved that he can get himself out of some tough situations in the story. I was very happy to see that Huck was able to escape his father Pap for now. C. I was somewhat confused as to why Jim didn’t let Huck look at the face of the dead body they both found. “Come in Huck, but doan’ look at his face – it’s too gashly.” (Page 50) I was confused at the exact reason he didn’t let him look at the face. I may be reading into it too heavily but could the dead man be Pap? Could that be the reason Jim does not want Huck to look at the dead body. I don’t know but this part of the story has me feeling curious as to what is the reason. I. I agree with John’s comment on why Huck didn’t put the end to Pap when he could have. I feel like he couldn’t do it because he was just to good-hearted to commit an action of that nature. That was probably the primary reason as to why he didn’t end the life of Pap at that moment.
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Post by djmat on Dec 8, 2013 22:59:30 GMT -5
Osman Mat Mr. Thomas English 11 8 December 2013
E. I kinda do not like the fact that Huck ran away because if felt there were other ways he could handle his problems. Huck is literally running away from his problems. He has had many opportunities to deal with his father. Killing his father may not be the most moral course of action but i feel like it is a lot better than just running away from everything. Especially since everything is fine without Pap around. Although Huck has done some cool things like faking his death to ensure his escape, it kind of diminishes my opinion of him.
B. In chapter 8 when Huck is talking to Jim about running away because Miss Watson was thinking about selling him shows how big a thing slavery really was back then. Miss Watson was putting a price over his head, a price on a human being. It is also a bit weird because the way it is told in the story makes it seem like it is normal, which it was at the time but in relation to current day society that would be considered foreign, evil, or morally incorrect.
C. I do not understand why Jim covered Huck's eyes knowing that Huck ran away to get away from his father. Why would Huck care if his father was dad? Not seeing his father again was the main purpose of Huck faking his death and running away. To be honest i do not think Huck would have cared that much. What do you guys think?
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Post by johnrice on Dec 8, 2013 23:17:36 GMT -5
John Rice Mr. Thomas English 11 12.8.12
Discussion Board
I. I believe that these chapters, as well as this book, has a sublime transcendental message. In chapters 7-9 Huckleberry Finn leaves his father and the widow and goes to Jacksons Island. It is very interesting to see Huck wanting to live by himself in solidarity. He is kind of soul searching, and enjoying living by himself, away from the rest of the world. It is very interesting to see how Transcendentalism could be seen in many different works of literature especially the ones we have been reading in class. Our natural instinct when we are tired of society if to seek solitude.
E. I would like to agree with the post that John Marano said in his discussion board post. Huckleberry Finn and Jim are both free from their own problems they have in life. I would like to add on to this. They are both trying to become free from different people. Huckleberry Finn is trying to become free from his crazy insane, drunk, horrible father (I hate him), and Jim is trying to become free from Ms. Watson who is trying to sell him to a slave trade in New Orleans, separating him from his family.
A. Huckleberry Finns actions are relatable to somethings we see today in our lives. I think that in our lives our first instinct when we are uncomfortable with a situations is to run, or leave the situation immediately. This is what Huck did, he left the cabin, and went to Jackson Island. In addition to this, when we are fearing for our lives, or in a scary situation we look to leave, or flee. THis is what Jim did when he realized he was in danger of being sold or separating from his family.
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Post by georgebaroudos on Dec 8, 2013 23:19:17 GMT -5
George Baroudos Mr. Thomas English 11 4 December 2013
A – I believe in 2Pac when he says for every dark night, there is a brighter day. Huck has had a rough life his whole life, it is not easy growing up in the first place and what Huck goes through is inspiring. From experience I know that life is difficult. Life is full of twists and turns. But I know that we have to have a positive attitude to reach that bright day. It is much easier said then done, but hope is essential. We must always have an open mind when we enter new situations. When we bring about a hopeful outlook, anything is possible.
D –“ I warn’t lonesome now” (41). When Huck sees Jim he regains that sense of comfort. When we are familiar with something we feel much better. Huck is all alone and with this encounter with Jim he feels much better. When we are comfortable as humans, our hope rises. Huck needs hope to survive; Jim serves as that hope that they will some day be all right. Jim is a familiar face with a kind soul; Huck must feel better about the situation.
I – When Huck paddles to Jackson’s Island, this reminds me of his own personal retreat. In many ways this is related to Self-Reliance. Even though Huck has to be nervous, he is in the fresh air and is peaceful. It is very difficult to find peace within a closed area. That is why Huck struggles so much when he was locked in the cabin. Huck did not know what to expect, just like those who go on retreat do not know what to expect. It is difficult adapting to change, but Huck will do it with the help of Jim.
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Post by Sgarlato on Dec 8, 2013 23:58:21 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato Mr. Thomas English 11 12/8/13
A. I think a common thought in the minds of young adults is to run away from home. It isn’t just to run away from their home, the real reason is from your parents. Every kid has had that thought whether it is due to a fight they got into or they want to feel real freedom. Some kids like me want to feel what it is like to live on my own and provide for myself. I’m not looking to run away but just to be 100% free. I. To answer DJ’s question about why Jim covers Huck’s eyes. I would say it’s because it is still death like regardless of who it is, nobody needs to witness death. And it was still his father, it’s not like it was a complete stranger. C. What I was confused about was why Huck didn’t decide to run away a while ago. Like he obviously didn’t have a good childhood due to all the stuff he was getting into. Stuff like the Tom Sawyer’s group with the stealing and all the felons they where creating.
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Post by fotia15 on Dec 9, 2013 19:49:07 GMT -5
a. I feel the situation that huck is stuck in. I mean i directly never had an abusive parent, but it something where my heart can go out to him. I spent alot of time with my friend who was abused as a child and his older brother told someone and they were put into adoption services and ended up with a perfect family. Either way he explained to me that a major thing that he thought of was just leaving but at the time he was only 7 so there was no where to go and he was scared to be alone. This is a feeling that huck also feel.
E. Jim is actually amazing. Im so happy that he is going on this venture with huck because he definitely cares about him. This caring feeling is something very unordinary to huck because of his struggle in his life. He's only felt such feeling when he was jim and his crew. But now that its an older figure it could be good for him.
D. total prop to huck and jim for getting away and starting this life on the boat. It wasnt going to be easy and it probably wont get any easier but i feel like the two of them will be able to get through. jim claims to know everything and huck is a boy genius. When to great minds get together it usually lead for success.
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Post by scanley73 on Dec 9, 2013 19:51:45 GMT -5
D. I really liked how Huck managed to create such an intricate plan at such a young age none the less. He managed to fool his father and everyone in town. Now his father will stop hounding him for booze money and he doesn’t have to go to that school he hates so much. His plan was incredibly elaborate and he left no details out. He even was smart enough to sprinkle some of his hair onto the axe so people though he cot killed. He also knew that they would send bread down the river to try and find his drowning body. All of this just goes to show that Huck truly is more intelligent than we give him credit for. A. Something that I didn’t understand was why Huck didn’t kill his father when he had the chance. His dad is scum, Huck could have continued living his life without being worried if his dad would show up to beat him up if he went to school or having to give his father money that rightfully belonged to Huck. I really don’t think Huck would feel bad or miss him either, I know I wouldn’t. I. To answer Stephen’s question, he didn’t have any serious reason to run away. Even though he wasn’t very happy he wasn’t in an awful situation. Everyone has had a point in time where everything was going bad. We didn’t run off to a new place though. That’s because it wasn’t serious enough for us to simply run away and leave everything behind.
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