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Post by Mr. Thomas on Mar 26, 2014 12:21:21 GMT -5
The finale
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Post by johnmarano on Mar 26, 2014 17:47:38 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
March 26, 2014
C. I was somewhat confused with the ending to the book. Where did Tom and Daisy run off to? This annoyed me because they just left and made other people clean up their mess. Also, where is all of Gatsby’s “friends” at the funeral? I never knew that the people who attended his parties were just there to be there. I guess no one cared about Jay. Did anyone beside Nick care? I mean Nick was the only person going through all sorts of trouble trying to contact some friends or family members of Gatsby’s. Last thing, how could Daisy do such a thing and just run from it? She had such a pithy past with Jay yet she lets him take the fall where he is later killed. This kind of made me think she did it in revenge because Jay never came back to her.
D. One quote I would like to explain was said by Nick. “As I sat there brooding on the old, unknown world, I thought of Gatsby's wonder when he first picked out the green light at the end of Daisy's dock. He had come a long way to this blue lawn, and his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it. He did not know that it was already behind him.” I thought this was so significant because again Nick mentions the past of Gatsby. Throughout the novel Gatsby seemed to have trouble escaping the past. Now we see that Gatsby’s whole goal as an American was already behind him. Gatsby worked hard enough in his early days and he was cut short. Although people may think they come short at achieving something, they usually just miss the obvious. Gatsby had completed his goal but was s hung up on other things he couldn’t even realize it.
F. I want to point out on the relationship between Tom and Daisy. Is there ANY love whatsoever? I mean at one point Daisy is so upset and angered by Tom’s action and than next thing you know she is defending him and even running away with him. I just don’t understand why the two are still together. I feel Tom ruined Daisy, which forced her to believe that she was no good that led to her chronic wrongdoings.
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Post by eointunney on Mar 26, 2014 20:03:29 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
26 March 2014
C. In this final chapter there were several things that confused me. First off, what was Gatsby’s job given to him by Meyer Wolfsheim? This scene confused me because I wasn’t too sure if his job was revealed. I know Wolfsheim said that he built Gatsby from nothing. All I know is that the work was sketchy because Nick mentions the 1919 World Series transaction. Also I was surprised that Jordan didn’t show up to Gatsby’s funeral because it never really says why she didn’t.
E. I wasn’t too surprised when Tom and Daisy didn’t go to Gatsby’s funeral. They ran away the day that he died, and didn’t come back for a while. I kind of knew that they wouldn’t go to his funeral, mainly because Tom is an extremely difficult person. I was surprised that they ran away because they pretty much ran away from their problems, which usually doesn’t do any good.
B. At the end of the chapter Tom tells us that Wilson was about to kill him because he knew that Tom knew the person who owned the car. He told Wilson the truth, which caused him to go to Gatsby’s house and murder him. Tom knew that this was the perfect opportunity to get rid of Gatsby. The thing that Tom and Wilson didn’t know was that Daisy was actually the one driving. I was wondering what would have happened if Wilson knew that it was Daisy. It definitely would have made the ending crazier, and it would probably involve Gatsby saving Daisy but dying in the process.
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Post by connor on Mar 26, 2014 21:23:05 GMT -5
Connor Ryan
Mr. Thomas
English 11
3/27/14
E. I was a big fan of the ending of the book. I really liked when we met Mr. Gatz and I feel like it revealed a major part of Gatsby life that we were missing. Mr. Gatz first reaction when he got to Gatsby's home was he was very said and in shock. He was almost at the point of collapse. Mr. Gatz's reaction changed to being proud of what his son accomplished and how nice his house was. I liked how it showed that Gatsby's parents did care about him and that Gatsby has an impact on there lives.
A part I thought answered a ton of questions was when we first meet Meyer Wolfsheim. It reveals to us how Gatsby became so rich and who he worked for. Mr. Wolfsheim says, "I raised him up out of nothing, right out of the gutter. I saw right away he was a fine-appearing, gentlemanly young man"(171). This section in the chapter shows to us how Gatsby got his job and what he was first looked at as.
In the chapter we learn that many of Gatsby's friends were not really his friends. Nick says, "after that I felt a certain shame for Gatsby- one gentleman to whom I telephoned implied that he had for what he deserved"(169). This line really stood out to me and really showed me that many of Gatsby's friends were not his friends. This reminded me of now when people use other people for there things. Just like the people were using Gatsby for his parties.
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Post by georgebaroudos on Mar 26, 2014 21:37:18 GMT -5
George Baroudos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
25 March 2014
A – It really bothers me that Klipspringer just calls for his tennis shoes. It was really the wrong time to ask for that. Often times as humans we are in awkward positions, but this unacceptable. During a time of sadness and hurt, a person’s main priority should not be material items. This sums up the society they live in, it is disgusting and it shows how material objects in some people’s eyes are most important. These people will never live a true day and will never find true happiness. Money is a true luxury, but it will never bring happiness. Love and appreciation allow us to find that happiness in other people and within ourselves. That phone call really ruined my mood, but unfortunately this is how our lives are structured.
D – “Let us learn to show our friendship for a man when he is alive and not after he is dead” (172). Although Nick sees this as an excuse, this is a very valid statement. After a death that person is celebrated in uncanny fashion. But while that person is alive are they truly cherished? We should always treat a person like it is our last moment with them. We should never take anyone for granted and I believe that a person is far more valued then we will ever know. We really only see this value after their death. This may be sickening, but it is the cycle of life and this will always happen. We truly never know what we have until it is gone.
I – nick claims throughout the whole novel that he is the most honest man in the world. But as the novel progresses we witness that this is not the truth. When Mr. Gatz mentions that Jay would have done things to build the country up, Nick agrees, but uncomfortably. This is a clear indication that he did not agree with this statement. Honestly, it is better off to lie in that position rather then crush an already sad man. It is a nice thing that Nick wanted to console the father, but if he is in fact the most honest man in the world he should not be afraid to speak what is on his mind. I cannot blame him, but we witness that this book has been full of empty promises and liars. But that is what society is built on.
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Post by fotia15 on Mar 26, 2014 22:16:26 GMT -5
A. The book was overall really good. i love the amount of detail and thought that was putt in throughout the entirety of it. The modernist feel is very vivid, the thought of the lover quarals, the rich man that cant be happy. the view from the eyes of nick made it very different and compelling. At the end i feel like his eyes were very important because he was the only one who knew the truth about what had happen that night. He was the only one who cared about the truth and actually cared about gatsby after his death other than gatz the father. spectacular from start to finish, it was very much worth the time we spent on it.
e. They should have just let they guy shoot daisy when he was at the door. She was the one in the mix of this lovers quarl. He was the one who actually kid the girl to. Tom framming gatsby was kind of twist. Tom legit took everything thing from him and then ended up causing his death. Tom is responsible for not only his internal death but his external death. It does say that Tom felt bad about this but still i dont think it was at all needed, i dislike dasiy because shes was a whore throughout the book and she deserves to die.
F. the ending sentence connecting the light from the being. It made it super cool to think about the event that transpired all in the eyes of love. You can stretch as far as you can, but sometimes when you go to grab what you want it will slip through your fingers like the fog in the air of the lake. then the thought of the boat going against the the current. fight for what you love no matter what flow is pushing you back. Alot of strong meaning left in this book.
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Post by Sgarlato on Mar 26, 2014 22:24:05 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato
Mr. Thomas
English 11
3/26/14
A. I feel bad for Gatsby, even though he is dead, that basically no one came to his funeral. All of his friends seem to have disappeared. In a way the reader could have easily anticipated this. I mean he really didn’t have any friends he just threw huge parties that everyone came to. So, when he died nobody really cared. It sucks because there are going to be no more parties but they could care less about his actual death.
I. To respond to John Marano’s question I would say that the people who came to Gatsby’s parties really only came for the party not because they liked him. So, the amount of people at his funeral reflected his relationship with others besides Nick. Nick was really the only person who was invested in Gatsby’s life.
C. Where did Tom and Daisy go. After chapter 8 they disappeared. No hint was given to where they were going or their intentions. I thought they were going to make an appearance at his funeral but I guess not.
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Post by bourdonm15 on Mar 30, 2014 21:35:44 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
3/30/14
B. It is pretty remarkable how all of the people Gatsby thought were his friends and claimed were his friends showed up at the funeral. “After I felt a certain shame for Gatsby – one gentleman to whom I telephoned implied that he had got what he deserved.” (Page 169) Daisy and Tom did not show up, Wolfsheim or Klipspringer did not show up either. The only people that showed up were Nick, some of Gatsby’s servants and most surprisingly Gatsby’s father Henry C. Gatz. This really shows that you cannot trust anyone in this society because everyone seems to be a shady character in this whole story.
F. I found it pretty interesting how Nick describes the story as one of the West. “I see now that this has been a story of the West, after all – Tom and Gatsby, Daisy, Jordan, and I, were all Westerners, and perhaps we possessed some deficiency in common which made us subtly unadaptable to Eastern life.” (Page 176) This shows that although the story is set in the East, each of these characters bring their Western ways of life to the East and this is why what happened ended up happening. He uses this to equate the ending of the story for this reason.
I. I agree with George’s comment on friendship. It refers back to my first comment and shows that all these people were never really Gatsby’s friends. Gatsby was taken for granted and the characters in this book are all in some way shady.
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