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Post by Mr. Thomas on Apr 7, 2014 16:47:52 GMT -5
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Post by emmanuelluna on Apr 7, 2014 17:26:20 GMT -5
Emmanuel Luna
Mr. Thomas
English 11
4/7/14
E. I find it weird how Blanche constantly asks about the men’s marital status and immediately tries to get with them. For example, when she sees Mitch coming out of the bathroom she automatically asks if he is married. She then started unbuttoning her blouse and asks what he works in. This almost instinct to flirt with the first man she sees is really strange and might be related to the “desire” that we discussed in class. She might have a strong sexual desire but I just think it’s really weird she flirts with anyone she sees.
D. After Stanley beats Stella the next day Blanche runs frantically looking to see if her sister is okay. To her surprise she is fine and acts as if nothing happened. She even asks why Blanche was so frantic. Stella insists that Stanley is a good man and that he only gets that way when he is drunk and that it is not uncommon for him to act the way he did. This again demonstrates the sick, disturbing relationship between Stanley and Stella. Stella genuinely believes that she loves Stanley, or at least tries to convince herself of that while Blanche is the only one who can see that and tries to help her leave him, to no avail. This relationship can only end in disaster unless she leaves Stanley.
I. Going off what I said before in class and about their relationship only getting worse I thought it was worth noting that even though the Elysian Fields are where the virtuous and brave souls rest, it is still in the Underworld. This could be important since they appear to be living a good life now but it could quickly change into an Underworld full of pain and suffering; the complete opposite of the Elysian Fields.
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Post by johnmarano on Apr 7, 2014 17:50:18 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
April 7 2014
C. I am beginning to enjoy the play even more but I have some questions about it. We already know that Stanley is kind of a jerk and really conceited so why does Stella claim that he is the only one who will go somewhere in life? Mitch is a very genuine and polite man, yet they say Stanley will go further… How does that make any sense? Also, what is Stanley’s problem because he seems to be getting mad so easily? He gets mad because Mitch is barely playing and he gets mad at Blanche for the music. What is his deal? Is Blanche just flirtatious to everyone she meets? Does she actually have any romantic interest in anyone?
I. In class we spoke about masculinity and it being an important theme that we will repeatedly see throughout the play. Well during the reading I noticed a few instances of this. In scene 3, Stanley slaps the buttocks of Stella after he tells her to do something. This reveals his “manliness” through violence. On the other hand, we see a completely different type of masculinity. Mitch is a different type of man. He seems caring and nice but at the same time he reveals his flirtatious character.
F. I kind of want to discuss the relationship between Stella and Stanley. Is there any love between the two? I mean it seems as if whatever Stanley says goes. Even Stella says how the physical relationship between the two is the only thing going for them pretty much. I just don’t understand if there are actually any genuine feelings that the two share. Will this play an important part in the story?
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Post by georgebaroudos on Apr 7, 2014 20:39:20 GMT -5
George Baroudos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
7 April 2014
A – Poker games do in fact get very tense. When money is on the line, men zone in and focus on playing. That constant burden of the radio or the loud talking will bother any real poker player. Poker is a game of luck, but it also involves a lot of focus because the player must know when to hold and when to fold.
D – “Sorrow makes for sincerity, I think” (58). This is a very accurate statement and it should not be followed by I think because it is certainly the truth. With sorrow comes meaning. The presence of sorrow forces the human to go into depth with his or her own emotions. Through this search of other emotions a lot is seen about ourselves that we do not normally fine. Different levels of sorrow bring out different levels of sincerity. But we cannot escape sorrow in many cases and we react with sincerity in our tone and in our actions with the hopes of escaping sorrow.
I – As we see more of Stanley he continues to resemble Tom Buchanan. They both experience outbursts of rage. They cannot control these outbreaks and they just happen. They even resort to hitting women. Both have little respect for women and believe that men are superior. In their mind this validates hitting them or breaking objects such as the radio. Luckily for them they have two wives that are scared of change and rely on them. They experience that dependence on their partner and refuse to let them go. That’s why this incident does not seem big to Stella.
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Post by eointunney on Apr 7, 2014 20:47:04 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
7 April 2014
E. Today in class we talked about how Stanley has to be the dominant man because he feels that his masculinity is being questioned. We see him trying to be the dominant person when he beats Stella. Obviously Stella is scared because she keeps telling Blanche that her husband is actually a great guy and she just wants to believe that she loves him. I feel Stella doesn’t really know what to do in this situation.
D. Once again we see that Blanche is a very odd character. She likes to flirt with guys, especially married men, a lot. I don’t know why she is so attracted by married men, but its pretty weird. One situation she shows this is when she starts unbuttoning her blouse while flirting with Mitch. Blanche seems like the type of person to flirt with anything that has a heartbeat.
A. Once again the characters from this poem have many similar traits to characters in The Great Gatsby. Stanley relates very well with Tom because he wants to be viewed as the stronger man. He beats his wife, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he cheats on her, which we sort of see when he was talking with Blanche in scenes 1+2. Stella relates very well with Daisy because she forces herself to stay with Stanley and she keeps telling herself that her husband is a good guy.
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Post by epoccia on Apr 7, 2014 21:19:32 GMT -5
Eddie Poccia
English 11
Mr. Thomas
4/7/14
Streetcar Named Desire Scenes 3+4
It seems like Stanley goes into rage mode and is completely unaware of waht he is doing. After he hits Stella, it takes him a while to realize what he has done. He then goes crying to her like a child. This just shows that Stanley is not as tough as he thinks he is.
I don't think that Stella truly loves Stanley. I think that she thinks she loves him. This becomes clear when she is telling Blanche all of the good things about him. She basically tells her that she likes him for his looks and his personality when he is sober.
When Stanley comes home and embraces Stella, it is clear that they have put the events of the noght before behind them. It is strange how Stella acts like it never happened and continues living with Stanley as normal. This relationship can be related to Tom and Daisy's relationship. Stella doesn't really love Stanley just as Daisy didn't really love Tom. they are both fake relationships in a way.
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Post by bourdonm15 on Apr 7, 2014 21:58:33 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
4/7/14
A. I am really starting to dislike Stanley and I could say now that the comparison between Stanley and Tom Buchanan from The Great Gatsby is inevitable to point out. They are both very aggressive men who are violent and abusive to their partners to which they are supposed to love. “A chair scrapes. Stanley gives a loud whack of his hand on her thigh Stella: That’s not fun, Stanley.” (Page 50) This is not right at all. This shows that he treats Stella like a piece of property and that he is trying to look “cool” and “the man” to all of his friends which shows his other obsession with masculinity (even though these actions are far from it).
B. The co-dependence theme that was brought up in class today makes a lot more sense now. Even after Stanley beating Stella, she still tries to justify the beating to Blanche the next day. “And you – you let him? Didn’t run, didn’t scream? Stella: I was sort of thrilled by it.” (Page 73) What did I just read? It is honestly hard for me to read this when she is literally getting beaten and looks at it as normal or “thrilling”. This is honestly the perfect definition of dysfunctional and something that mind-boggles me.
I. I agree with Eoin’s comment on the comparison to the Great Gatsby. The comparison between the two books is striking and eye-opening. It definitely shows that either both books were written in the same literature period or this book is immensely influenced by the Great Gatsby.
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Post by danokeefe15 on Apr 7, 2014 21:58:51 GMT -5
Danny O'Keefe
Mr.Thomas
English 11
7 April 2014
C. A question that came to mind after reading scenes 3 and 4 was why they said that Stanley would be the person to make it the furthest in life. I don't understand why they think this and where they are getting it from, I feel like Stanley has yet to prove this in anyway especially in these 2 scenes that we just read. I feel like if anything he would be the last person that would go anywhere in life, at least at this point in the story.
B. I felt like these two scenes were important to the text because we get to know the characters better and also one of the major conflicts or issues comes into play which is Stanley and how violent and wrong he can be at some points. We also see the relationship between Stella and Stanley which is very different, but also very important because their relationship is going to play a big part in the rest of the story.
F. In these scenes we see a relationship between Stanley and Tom Buchanan when he brings Nick to meet Myrtle at the hotel. Tom and Myrtles relationship can be compared and related to Stella and Stanley's because they both claim that they love each other but tend to show this in weird and confusing ways and most of the time these situations occur when the are under the influence which Tom and Stanley both have in common.
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Post by Sgarlato on Apr 7, 2014 22:01:37 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato
Mr. Thomas
English 11
4/7/14
A. I like the beginning of the third scene where we see Steve, Pablo, Mitch, and Stanley playing poker. It starts out as a very manly scene, even when Stanley smacks Stella on the butt. I found this part appealing because I can relate to it. Me and a couple of other guys chilling, not harassing girls but definitely talking about them.
I. To answer John Marano’s questions I would say that they say Stanley goes further in life because he is more of the social, eccentric one of the group. Even though Mitch is a nice, polite guy he might not be social or outgoing and sometimes people who are go-getters do better in life.
C. Why does Stanley seem like that redneck, road rage type of character. Like he seems to lose his temper at times and I can’t understand why. What makes him so mad all the time. I like it though because no one knows when he will go off. It keeps the reader on their toes and engaged in the reading.
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Post by scanley73 on Apr 8, 2014 7:10:36 GMT -5
I. In response to Danny’s question about Stanley going the furthest in life, we have to remember that it was Stella who said that so of course she is going to be biased. She sees Stanley as this great man who will do great things because she has convinced herself of that over the years of their marriage. I mean she even convinced herself that him throwing tantrums and breaking things is totally acceptable. It is how she copes with living in this abusive relationship, she has to believe that things will get better for her.
A. It wasn’t until now that I saw it but now I understand the connection between Stanley and Stella, and Tom and Daisy. Both marriages have the wife convinced she is happy when really she is miserable with her husband and has become dependent on him. Stanley, just like Tom, is an incredibly violent person who will snap at any second like we saw when he hits Stella. Also, Stella, just like Daisy tries to live with the abusive relationship despite all common sense.
C. One question I have is why does Balanche seem like such a flirt? In these scenes we now see her flirting with Mitch mere seconds after she met him. We already saw her flirting with Stanley, who is married to her sister, and now she’s flirting with one of is friends. Off topic from that though she is actually making sense when she tells Stella to leave Stanley. For once I agree with her and am on her side.
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Post by michaelannunziata on Apr 8, 2014 11:14:01 GMT -5
Michael Annunziata
Mr. Thomas
English 11
A. One thing that I can relate to from this part of the book, is that they play poker. As a child, being that I am Italian, my family plays cards all the time and my favorite game was always poker. We used to go to my upstate house and stay there for weeks at a time and all we used to do was play poker every night hours at a time. Being that I was one of the best ones that played it was always much more fun for me being that I was winning most of the time. I’m happy they play poker in this book, because it reminds me of my childhood.
C. One thing that I questioned throughout reading this book was why Stella is still with Stanley. Stanley abuses her, physically and it a very aggressive and mean husband to her and it just makes zero sense to me as why she’s still with him. He’s not a good person and he doesn’t have his life together and so far in the book it is evident to me that Stanley doesn’t deserve her and Stella doesn’t deserve to be treated this way.
D. One thing that I didn’t like throughout reading this part of the book was that Stanley beat up Stella which simply not ok. A man should never hit a girl and he did, and on top of that after he beats her up he gives her $10 as if that was helping her or something.
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Post by fotia15 on Apr 8, 2014 22:59:59 GMT -5
A: mitch is so the only character that i seems to be nice in this book. Blanche seems to be crush on him, he seems to be crushen on her, Its cute. But something is strange about Mitch. Why would a nice guy like him be hanging out with a guy like stan. I mean the work together but thats about it. Also theres is a deepness to mitch's character thats gently tapped on but not really in depth focused on. The cigarette case has some really deep ingraving on it and was given to him from a crazy ex girlfriend of his that passed away. I wonder what went down and if it still really effects him.
E. I do enjoy how stella is really stupid and wont face the facts that her husband insanely bi polar, and abusive. She to crazy inlove with him to notice. Blanche tries to warm her "your married to a mad man", but she doesnt really give a shit shes just like the sex is good. i like him he brings home the money. I can never understand abusive relationships.
c. Why is blanche really there and why is shes trying to be the hero in this situation. she was the first one to try to get stella out the house, she constantly is telling her about how animalistic stan is, but really why is it such a big deal, stella is happy (even though she crazy her self). Is it her place to stand in ? how far will she push to get her sister away from him?
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