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Post by Mr. Thomas on Apr 11, 2014 10:27:07 GMT -5
The disturbing finale.
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Post by johnmarano on Apr 13, 2014 19:03:35 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
April 13 2014
B. I felt that the most important part of this reading was basically all of chapter 8. Stanley obviously hasn’t changed and what he does is absolutely ridiculous. The fact that he hands her the ticket as a “gift” truly shows how cruel and selfish he is. I just don’t understand why he doing all this. I also found it important how Stanley basically ruined the little thing that Blanche and Mitch had going on. I mean it wasn’t so serious but still Mitch liked her and she showed SOME signs as well. Before this chapter I was kind of making predictions of how the book would end and honestly I thought Stanley would realize that his actions are absurd but Chapter 8 is just another reflection of the brutal man he truly is.
C. Is Blanches presence in the household actually interrupting the marriage between Stanley and Stella? Stanley tries to say it does but he is a complete control freak who is out of his mind so I don’t really believe that Blanche in causing the relationship to have any more problems than it already does. Also, why does Blanche request marriage now? She is in absolutely no position yet she expects a yes from Mitch.. Like what is wrong with you??
E. I kind of jumped out of my seat a little when Stanley knocked Blanche out cold. It surprised me because its not just the verbal abuse anymore, its physical now. I was also extremely surprised at the very end when Blanche is being taken away. I didn’t think that Stella would actually follow through with sending her away but she did. It doesn’t make sense to me because obviously Stella knows that Stanley is taking things way to far yet she abides by him and not her own sister.
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Post by eointunney on Apr 13, 2014 19:33:06 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
13 April 2014
E. In scene 8, we see once again that Stanley is an extremely aggressive person. When Stella calls him “greasy” for eating with his hands and tells him to help clean up Stanley goes crazy. He smashes his plate and says that he is done with being called names. He also tells Stella and Blanche to remember that he is the king of the house. Stanley also pretends to be nice by giving Blanche a birthday present, but its really only to tell her get out of my house. Stanley seems to have problems controlling his anger and most of the things he gets angered at are stupid things. Even though him and Tom are similar, Tom only gets really angry at serious things.
D. In these scenes I have really realized how terrible of a liar Blanche is. She seems to get caught on every lie she tells. First of she tells lies about her past and about how she slept with many men and then she gets caught in the lie that Mitch came back to her to apologize. She also got caught on the lie about the telegraph she received from Shep. But Blanche seems to believe in this lie herself.
C. From reading these few scenes, there were several things that I didn’t understand or had questions about. At the end of scene 10 Blanche and Stanley get into a fight, then Stanley eventually carries her to her bed. Then the text says, “The hot trumpet and drums from the Four Deuces sound loudly.” I just wanted to know what happened next because this line is pretty weird. Also Blanche is obsessed with this millionaire Shep. She thinks that her is going to save her, and I was just wondering if she made this man up because at the end we do see that she is taken away and the doctor says that a straightjacket wouldn’t be necessary, which means that she is crazy.
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Post by georgebaroudos on Apr 13, 2014 20:05:05 GMT -5
George Baroudos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
12 April 2014
A- Stanley catches Blanche in that lie about Mitch. This has some humor to it. Stanley knows exactly what happened and he calls her out. Stanley never had the best relationship with Blanche but I see this as the icing on the cake. There is no better feeling then calling someone out on a lie. I don’t see the point in lying. Blanche got rejected and put down harshly but preceded to lie about it. There is no need for that especially for families. Lying destroys families and it destroyed this one.
D- “Luck is believing you’re lucky” (163). This is many senses is true. The concept of luck is also a mindset in my opinion. If you walk into a situation with positive outlook better things will happen. Entering any situation hoping for the best and seeing the best, the best will come eventually. Any situation requires positivity and that will bring out the best results. We should all see the glass as half full and not half empty. It is important to surround us with good vibes.
I- Every character within this book is insecure about who they truly are. This clouds their judgment and brings about horrible decisions left and right. These people care about the opinions of others rather then there own. Blanche especially falls in this category. Blanche is genuinely afraid to shine the light when with Mitch because she does not want to show her true colors. The light can potentially bring out a lot of the truth in a person’s image. Blanche is terrified of showing the true person she is to Mitch who she wants to marry. If the feelings they have were real then all of that shouldn’t matter. Blanche does not feel comfortable in her own skin and that forces her to act on in a negative way.
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Post by danokeefe15 on Apr 13, 2014 21:26:27 GMT -5
Danny O'Keefe
Mr. Thomas
English 11
13 April 2014
C. The first thing that confused me was at he end of scene 10 what happened? it said something about noises being covered by loud music or something and then the next scene Stella said something about Blanche and Stanley, and I'm just very confused about what is going on. what also confused me is where Blanche is going at the end. Are they sending her to some mental hospital? out of all the sick people in this story she's the one to go.
B. what I found interesting is that Blanche was taken by the doctor because she is a liar and that she is hearing things and whatever, but when Blanche tells Stella that Stanley and her did Something she doesn't believe her. I personally don't think that Blanche is the worst person in the in the play I would have chosen several other people to be taken away before Blanche and I believe that its everyone else's fault that she is like that.
E. After finishing the play I really wasn't a fan of it. I thought that their really wasn't a point to the story and that it was about a bunch of crazy individuals that ruined not only their lives but the people around them. Also allot of the things that happened in the story was really irritating and I questioned a lot of the characters decisions in this play, and I just didn't enjoy it. |
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Post by bourdonm15 on Apr 13, 2014 21:54:58 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
4/13/14
C. I am completely confused with the end of the play. How and why did a doctor and a nurse take away Blanche? Was she going to a “looney-bin” or something? “Blanche walks on without turning, followed by the Doctor and the Matron. They go around the corner of the building.” (Page 178) I am still confused as to why these doctors are here to take away Blanche. Plus, what was with all of the Varsouviania music that continues to play throughout most of the scenes along with the strange reflections and shadows that Blanche sees on the walls? What is the significance of these two motifs?
B. It is very sickening and disgusting to read that Stanley has raped Blanche. “Oh! So you want some rough-house! All right, let’s have some rough-house! Tiger – tiger! Drop the bottle-top! Drop it! We’ve had this date with each other from the beginning! … He picks up her inert figure and carries her to bed.” (Page 162) This is just purely disgusting and now I can honestly say that I hate Stanley with all of me regardless of him being a fictional character. It is really sad that this occurred to Blanche and in return she became more scarred than Stella who is actually married to Stanley. Also at the end when Stella is crying is actually symbolic because she is crying for both Blanche and the reality of her own life. She is crying because she cannot believe Blanche’s accusations of rape on Stanley but she also cannot say it was not possible.
I. I agree with Eoin’s comment on Blanche. How terrible her lying skills were was humorous but I felt bad for Blanche at the end.
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Post by epoccia on Apr 13, 2014 22:18:28 GMT -5
Eddie Poccia
English 11
Mr. Thomas
13 April 2014
Streetcar Named Desire 8-11
I really feel bad for Blanche during these chapters. She tells Mitch that she was just looking for support and companionship when her husband kills herself. Instead she gets raped by Stanley and gets taken away by doctors. I'm not sure why she was taken away but I don't think she deserved it after all that she's been through.
Stanley is just a disgrace of a human being. He sees himself as the "king" and he thinks he is superior to everyone, especially females. He abuses women and he even raped Blanche. I wish something bad had happened to him in the story but this was another loose end that the author did not tie.
I agree with Danny that there was really no point to the story. It felt like it was just about a bunch of insane people and there was really no plot to it. I was kind of expecting something big to happen and it never did. I'm sure there is a deeper meaning to this story and we will go over it in class but right now I just don't see the point of this story.
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Post by seandelossantos on Apr 14, 2014 9:48:43 GMT -5
Sean de los Santos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
4/19/14
Discussion board
A. This part of the play is significant in which it truly shows the play as the tragic love story. This part of the story has many I different elements that truly parodies the love story. We don't see everyone come in the end in being happy. Instead we see insanity, death and rape. It's kinda crazy seeing the story ending like this because it's very unexpected. We done tee the Stella , Stanley, Mitch and Blanche living happily living. Instead we see them all living unhappily.
C. I have a few questions to ask the characters while reading this. First off, why'd o you have to lie Blanche? It's very sad to see you lie like this because in the end no one believed you. No one believed you about your background story and no one believed you that you got raped. So why lie to others? Another question I have is why do you have to be like that Stanley? You make men look bad in the way you act toward Blanche and Stella.
E. The element I see in the set of scenes is the element of manhood being frowned upon. Through the actions of Stanley we see the transmogrification of masculinity. Stanley acts too masculine in this set of acts. He smashes all the cups during Blanche's birthday dinner, rapes Blanche and he was still able to play poker the next day. Stanley truly shows the transmogrification of masculinity. He honestly makes being a man look bad through his actions during the acts of the play.
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Post by michaelannunziata on Apr 14, 2014 11:24:02 GMT -5
Michael Annunziata
A. One thing that I can relate too from this reading is that Stanley catches Blanche is a lie about Mitch. One thing that I can relate to from this is that most times when people get caught in very stupid and obvious lies, many people find it funny. That’s exactly how I felt when I found out about this lie and most of the time when I catch people in stupid lies I tend to find it quite hilarious, and I just feel like this type of lie is so common and so useless, that it’s funny.
C. One thing that confused me through out this part of the play, was that I was constantly wondering if Blanche was messing up Stanley and Stella’s marriage. Every time there is a problem that has to do with Stella and Stanley is all goes back to Blanche and I just never had a good and full understanding of the situation.
E. Honestly this play was probably the worst piece that we read all year. It makes completely no sense, I feel like there is not one person in the book who I can actually say that was a good person. I felt as if there was just so many people who had useless meaning to this world and have no idea what life is about. This play was extremely hard to understand and I just feel like we shouldn’t have read this piece this year.
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Post by rodriguezj15 on Apr 27, 2014 20:21:22 GMT -5
Joel Rodriguez
Mr. Thomas
English 11
April 15, 2014
A Streetcar Named Desire: Scenes 8-11
E. I feel bad how this play ended up with Blanche going crazy and Stanley acting like nothing happened. This is kind of funny because at the beginning of the play I hated Blanche and like Stanley’s character. But what makes me mad is that I finally realized that Blanche was just trying to break this cycle. She learned from her mistakes and her family’s mistakes with sex. At Laurel she used sex for comfort and her family was all epic fornicators how she explained at the beginning. When Mitch tries to have sex with her at the end of scene 9, she asked him to marry her then. She actually wanted save herself but then Stanley comes and you know. In this play sex kills. Just look at how Blanche refers to the strangers as victims.
B. I think the part in scene 9 with the Mexican woman selling flowers for the dead was very important. It wasn’t her actual presence, but rather Blanche’s response. She runs down and tells her, “No, no! Not now! Not, now (9. 119)!” This foreshadows what will happen in the last two scenes, where the death of Blanche’s sanity takes place.
D. It’s not one of my favorite lines but I find it hilarious when Stanley screams at Blanche, “…I am one hundred percent American… (8.110)” This play is a work of social realism and if Stanley is a depiction of the common American man, I wouldn’t want to live in America during that time.
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