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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 14, 2014 12:08:40 GMT -5
"Knavery's plain face is never seen till used."
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Post by Sgarlato on May 14, 2014 21:59:19 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato Mr. Thomas English 11 5/14/14
A. The most interesting point of these few scenes was when Iago tried to get Michael Cassio drunk so he could make him look stupid and hopefully get him demoted. In class we talked about how Iago doesn’t care about peoples faults or weaknesses. He will use anything against anyone if it is beneficial for himself. In this scene he uses Michael Cassio’s alcoholism against him even when Cassio tries to prevent it. Iago is a dangerous character and definitely will be making some drastic moves in these upcoming scenes. C. What was weird to me was Herald’s speech in Act 2 scene 2. Like yeah he was announcing about the Turkish defeat but I feel like it was a waist of a scene. In my opinion there was really no reason to have this speech and was just used to take up space. But obviously it is there for a reason. D. Awkward how I am the only one who posted tonight so I have really nothing else to say. But, I would like to comment on Iago’s creepiness that I brought up in the last post. He continues to show this weird, scary attitude and I don’t like it. He just has weirdness about him and like I said in the last post, it may just be the way I’m hearing it on the audio book but even the text is strange.
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Post by bourdonm15 on May 14, 2014 22:36:46 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon Mr. Thomas English 11 5/14/14 B. I have a feeling that Iago is going to try and be Desdemona’s lover and vice versa. He says, “Now, I do love her too, not out of absolute lust but partly led to diet my revenge” (Page 79). This is interesting because Iago is not necessarily in love with Desdemona, but he does not think she is bad looking and he feels that this should be taken into consideration of his entire plan because it would be a perfect way to get back at Othello. There are already rumors that Othello is sleeping with Iago’s wife and he hates Othello with a burning passion so this explains the reasoning behind why he would do something like this. F. The last sentence of his big soliloquy is very important to show that Iago has no definite plan. “Knavery's plain face is never seen till used.” (Page 81) With this quote he is saying that he has a plan, sort of a blueprint but the details are not clear yet and everything will be clear once it is all put into use. This is very important because there is not any one way that Iago could lead his plan. He could get revenge by doing a variety of things so we honestly have a clue but cannot set ourselves sure of what is to come. I. I agree with Stephen’s comment on Iago getting Cassio drunk. It was very interesting how he was able to get Cassio to drink even when he refused.
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Post by georgebaroudos on May 15, 2014 17:29:36 GMT -5
George Baroudos Mr. Thomas English 11 15 May 2014
A- Cassio talks so highly of Desdemona and it is very odd. I do not know many people who would flirt with their bosses wife. If anyone has ever been in a relationship you may know that it is so annoying when someone flirts with your partner. Othello is not aware of this yet. But Cassio sets himself up and it is pathetic. Finding a good girl is very hard in modern times. But if my boss was married to a great girl I still would not try and talk like that behind my bosses back. In my opinion it would not be worth it to lose my job.
D- “I am not merry, but I do beguile The thing I am by seeming otherwise” (137-138). Desdemona says this and it shows that she is not actually happy. She hides it and she hides it well. Desdemona ultimately fools everyone and no one is able to catch her. This is when she is going back and forth with Iago. Iago is so disrespectful and it is horrible. It makes me wonder if Desdemona will ever Othello that Iago is actually a mean souled person.
I – The duel between Cassio and Montano reminds me of the duels between the Montague’s and Capulet’s. These are classic battles that are in the middle of the street. These are epic battles and battles to the death. This family feud is an awesome one and they make large problems out of something so small. But if it has to happen, it will happen.
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Post by johnmarano on May 15, 2014 18:35:37 GMT -5
John Marano Mr. Thomas English 11 May 15 2014 B. Once again we see Iago manipulating these innocent people into something they would never do. He intentionally hypes up Cassio so he can implement his full plan. Iago will go as far as deceiving his own wife into helping his plan. I guess this goes to show Iago’s true determination. I think that determination can stem straight from hatred. If you hate something enough I believe you will do anything to get rid of it. I believe this is a constant theme within the play that will end up with bad consequences for Othello. C. As we recapped the events of last class, Iago exploits Cassio for his drinking problem. I was wondering why he has such a problem with drinking? I feel like Cassio lives a good life. He has a great job and reputation. He is greatly respected and loved by everyone. He gets a lot of women and yet he has a problem drinking. That sounds like a good life to me. Could a reason for his drinking be the fact that he is in love with Desdemona? He talks so highly of her and it is very risky, but he does it anyway. I feel like that is a sign of true love. A. Cassio is so concerned with his reputation after his slip up. This is a normal response though. I believe that a reputation is important. But I don’t believe it is everything. At the end of the day it should only matter what you know to be true, not others. But through it all a good reputation is better then having a bad one. A good reputation can go a long way, whether it’s in your own neighborhood or in a career field. This reputation follows you, but I don’t think it’s everything.
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Post by eointunney on May 15, 2014 18:54:01 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney Mr. Thomas English 11 14 May 2014
E. In this scene we see that Iago is pursuing is devious plan to turn Othello against Desdemona and Cassio. When Desdemona lands on Cyprus Othello is still out in the sea. She is extremely worried about him, but quickly settles when she begins speaking with Cassio. While talking to Cassio, Desdemona begins to flirt a bit with him, which amuses Iago because it seems like his master plan is coming together, until Othello arrives and Desdemona goes running off to him.
D. On page 69 Desdemona says, “I am not merry, but I do beguile/The thing I am by seeming otherwise. -/ Come, how wouldst thou praise me? (137-139) Desdemona is saying here that she actually isn’t happy and that she is covering her sadness up. She is extremely worried about Othello and she is also confused on why people would praise her. These lines were very interesting because Desdemona shares them with Iago, Emilia, and Cassio. Iago must have been extremely happy that he heard this because it would help his devious plan.
B. One very interesting trait of Iago is his ability to use other people to do his dirty work. He gets Cassio drunk, which leads to a fight with Montano. This puts Cassio on Othello’s bad side. Iago uses this as a chance for Cassio to go ask Desdemona for forgiveness because Othello will listen to everything Desdemona says. Iago seems to know the best ways to trick people, and he is very skilled at manipulating things to work in his favor.
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Post by matthewko on May 21, 2014 18:45:19 GMT -5
Matthew Ko Mr. Thomas English 11 15 May 2014
B. When Cassio states, "He hath achieved a maid That paragons description and wild fame, One that excels the quirks of blazoning pens, And in th' essential vesture of creation Does tire," (Shakespeare 63) we see Cassio's admiration for Desdemona. With Iago trying so hard to get back his lieutenant position, Cassio might be putting himself in a bad situation. In class we talked about how Iago is going to come up with a plan so it's interesting to see what will essentially happen to Cassio and maybe Othello.
D. As Iago goes on about his poisonous plan, he says, "Wife for wife, Or, failing so, yet that I put the Moor At least into a jealousy so strong That judgment cannot cure. --- Ill have our Michael Cassio on the hip, Abuse him to the moor in the rank garb," (Shakespeare 79) implying what he wants to do to Desdemona and Cassio that will directly effect Othello. Iago wants to take out Cassio by telling Othello Cassio slept with Desdemona. We see how this is aroused by a rumor that Othello sleep tight Emilia and also that Cassio is Lieutenant.
C. It's interesting to see how wives play a role in Shakespearian plays. Lady Macbeth assisted Macbeth in his mayhem so will Emilia assist Iago in his plan to frame Cassio? We have barely heard much about her but as the play unfolds, its tempting to see what her role is in Othello.
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