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Post by Mr. Thomas on May 20, 2014 11:31:14 GMT -5
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Post by emmanuelluna on May 20, 2014 16:49:49 GMT -5
Emmanuel Luna
Mr. Thomas
English 11
5/20/14
E. In this scene we begin to see how Iago’s plan progresses as he tries to pin Othello against Desdemona and Cassio. Iago is leaving suggestions for Othello to interpret knowing that it will drive him mad with jealousy and anger. All the virtues that Desdemona has he will now see negatively because he believes she is cheating on him with Cassio. Iago is really smart in not just saying that Desdemona is cheating on him because Othello would have been incredulous if that had been the case. Leaving it to his imagination has proven to be more effective.
D. Iago is a really despicable, cynical person but I do admire how intelligently cruel he is. Allowing Othello interpret his words in his own way is devilishly clever and smart at the same time. If I were Iago I would have done the same thing because that way my plan would be more effective and more fun to watch when everything unfolds. Also getting his wife involved without her knowing is genius because he is tying up as many loose ends as possible. Iago may be despicable, but not stupid.
C. I still don’t understand why Emilia would make a copy of Desdemona’s handkerchief for Iago. Is Iago really that good that his wife is completely clueless of what he wants it for? I think it’s strange that she would be so willing to help him because up until now she has shown no real interest in helping Iago.
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Post by eointunney on May 20, 2014 19:54:18 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
20 May 2014
D. In this scene we see how quickly Iago’s plan is coming together. His plan is so evil and devious, but it is so well though out that you can’t even hate it. Iago is one of those guys that you would love to see fail but you know that won’t happen because he is always one step ahead of the game. Iago gets Othello to go against his wife and now Othello believes Iago more because he knows him longer than Desdemona. It’s amazing how much Iago can manipulate a person, especially a man like Othello.
E. Whenever Iago has a new idea that he feels will help his plan succeed he uses every resource he has to get that done. In this scene we see that he asks his wife to get a perfect copy of Desdemona’s handkerchief so he can plant it somewhere that will make Othello believe that Desdemona and Cassio are having an affair. The ideas Iago comes up with are absolutely brilliant.
C. The one thing that really gets to me is how easily Iago was able to trick Othello into believing and trusting him. Earlier in the play everyone regarded Othello has this brilliant and intelligent man, but now I am starting to question that.
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Post by georgebaroudos on May 20, 2014 21:08:58 GMT -5
George Baroudos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
20 May 2014
A- Often times when I know that someone has defied me in the past I expect them to do it again. Iago could not have brought up a better point then the fact that Desdemona defied her father, so what makes Othello special? This makes Othello very skeptical and it sucks because it is all fake. This is ultimately the icing on the cake and brings Othello into a transition period. Sometimes the smallest comments make us believe all the wrong things. Often times when we hear one thing it determines how we react towards that certain comment. It is very difficult to escape this cycle but it is possible. Othello needs to look at everything before he jumps to conclusions.
D- “Leave it to time” (286). I feel like with time any obstacle can be overcame. With time we are able to respond to any situation with flying colors. Sometimes instinct gets us hurt. I think that Othello does not give himself time to assess the situation. I think if he did the first thing he would do is confront Desdemona about all of these actions. But he doesn’t because he reacts and does not respond. Considering this is a tragedy this will hurt him in the long run. It is all over a stupid mistake on Othello’s part. The only time Iago makes a valid statement, Othello does not listen. But he listens to everything this idiot has to say.
I – The handkerchief that Desdemona drops is almost like the clothes that Gatsby throws out of his closet at Daisy. Although initially they may seem like tangible items that mean nothing, they are a lot more then that. Daisy loves the feeling and scent of Gatsby’s fine clothing. The same goes with a simple handkerchief. This is the first memory Desdemona has of her husband. So she assigns value to it. Often times people do assign value to clothing because they feel comfortable. But I do find it odd that in both stories can clothing play a big part in the story.
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Post by johnmarano on May 20, 2014 22:21:29 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
May 20, 2014
D. A quote that I happened to find really interesting was a little bit after the conversation between Iago and Othello. After Iago completely brainwashes Othello into actually believing that his wife is a slut, Othello says little side notes to himself, which really grabbed my attention because for once it shows a shift in the protagonists views towards his wife, Desdemona. So far, Othello has been so vulnerable and submissive now he kind of questions his wife. “I had rather be a toad and live upon the vapor of a dungeon than keep a corner in the thing I love.” For the first time, Othello is actually angry at something he believes his wife did. This quote also shows how Iago is gaining power and his plan looks to be forming perfectly.
C. Like we discussed in class… Why doesn’t Othello just respectfully approach his wife about what he has heard about her? He doesn’t even consider asking her why Iago has these remarks. Also, why doesn’t Desdemona pick up on the fact that her husband is really angry and not sick with a “headache?” I mean it should be obvious when a spouse is angry about something yet Desdemona is clueless.
I. I would like to point out on the little project we did in class concerning the old woman. I thought this was such an important thing to do because it shows true misconception. In my opinion, the whole play is about misconceptions. Take Iago for example. He is supposed to be this trust worthy guy and honest guy yet he is completely planning to ruin Othello’s life. Even Emilia is decieving because even though she is clueless she acts like Desdemona’s friend yet she is kind of working to help Iago.
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Post by bourdonm15 on May 20, 2014 22:26:49 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
5/20/14
B. I honestly feel bad for Desdemona because now that Emilia retrieved her handkerchief, things are going to turn for the worst but not in her favor. “I am glad I have found this napkin. This was her first remembrance from the Moor. My wayward husband hath a hundred times wooed me to steal it.” (137) By getting the handkerchief to Iago, Emilia is doing something that will be all but bad for Desdemona. Iago is going to try to frame Cassio and have Othello see that Cassio has the handkerchief, adding more insult to injury.
F. Othello believes in Iago and whatever he says too much and it is giving the advantage to Iago. “This fellow’s of exceeding honesty, and knows all qualities with a learned spirit of human dealings.” (135) This story is just heading for disaster starting from this point. Now Othello switched up moods really fast from being in love with Desdemona and telling her that he will never deny her, to now saying that he does not trust her and how he regrets marrying her due to all of the things that Iago told him. Hopefully later on in the story Othello realizes how he is giving Iago the upper hand in believing what he is saying and not confronting Desdemona about it instead.
I. I agree with George’s comment on Desdemona’s handkerchief. The item is very valuable to her and is very valuable to the story’s future as it could be the item that brings down both Othello and Desdemona.
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Post by Sgarlato on May 20, 2014 23:47:21 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato
Mr. Thomas
English 11
5/20/14
A. So this is where it all comes down to for Cassio. In the beginning of Act 3, scene 4 Cassio and Othello are going to meet and discuss what happened and Cassio is nervous. Desdemona stresses that Othello is not in a good mood and tells him that she will go get him and try and calm him down.
C. What was the whole Bianca thing about. Like she wanted him to make a handkerchief with the same embroidery on it but then gets mad at him because she thinks it’s a love gift to some other woman. This is strange because, it just doesn’t make any sense. Why is she asking him to do something for her and then the next second she accuses him of making the handkerchief for some other woman. And then they make a date for later on in the play. Like we know she’s a prostitute so as a reader I can foreshadow what is already going to happen.
I. To answer John Marano’s question I would say that it isn’t so much that Desdemona is clueless but that she does know Othello is faking. She just doesn’t want to get in his way. She maybe doesn’t want to start something between them when he should be focusing on Cassio.
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Post by matthewko on May 21, 2014 19:28:05 GMT -5
Matthew Ko
Mr. Thomas
English 11
20 May 2014
D. Iago's relentless pursuit is on a roll when he states, "my fortunes against any lay worth naming, this crack of your love shall grow stronger than it was before" (Shakespeare 103). It's crazy that he's using Cassio's weakness as an alcoholic to try to put dreadful ideas into his brain. In this quote, we see Iago wanting Cassio to become closer and closer to Desdemona to try and make this poisonous plan quite sellable. Iago just seems to get worse and worse as his plan continues to rollout.
B. When Cassio responds to this nonsense, he replies, "I think it freely; and betimes in the morning I will beseech the virtuous Desdemona to undertake for me" (Shakespeare 103). This worries me a lot since Cassio is actually falling for Desdemona and has a bit of a liking for her. I worry that Othello will see this as a big betrayal if Desdemona is just having a good time with Cassio. It seems that Iago is getting his way after all...
C. The main question aroused from these lines would be if Desdemona will take this in easily. Im not sure if Desdemona will pickup on Cassio trying to get with her but with her sense of friendliness, this could backfire right into Cassio, stripping him from his leadership position.
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