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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 11:54:16 GMT -5
Post by Mr. Thomas on Jun 2, 2014 11:54:16 GMT -5
"Put out the light, and then put out the light."
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 17:52:41 GMT -5
Post by johnmarano on Jun 2, 2014 17:52:41 GMT -5
John Marano
Mr. Thomas
English 11
June 2, 2014
B. I thought the scene where Othello smothers his wife was the most significant part of today’s reading. I thought it was insane because honestly I didn’t see him actually coming to that point. This scene was also important because to me it summed up how Othello had changed throughout the play. He isn’t that caring guy anymore, he is actually a murderer. I also thought Emilia walking in on the murder was really important. This kind of interrupted the plan because this was so unexpected and now she is a witness to Othello’s plan.
C. I was really confused when Othello says that he wants to kill Desdemona so she wont hurt other men. Why does he say this? It isn’t like she was with other men during their relationship… so why would this even pop in his mind. It seems as if he completely disregards the fact that she “cheated” on him. Also, is Emilia finally catching on to what is going on? If so, what will happen to her next?
D. For some reason the quote that really jumped out to be as Othello’s “plan” was about to occur. Othello was strangely speaking to himself about why she deserves to die. Othello says, “Put out the light, and then put out the light.” I thought this repetitive quote from Othello showed his true eagerness to actually want to kill his wife. I wasn’t 100% sure on what he specifically meant but I feel like he literally meant put out the light in his room and then literally kill Desdemona. This quote also reveals how inhumane Othello has now become. He has no remorse for taking the life of a woman who he desperately cherished just days before.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 19:07:57 GMT -5
Post by epoccia on Jun 2, 2014 19:07:57 GMT -5
Eddie Poccia
English 11
Mr. Thomas
6/2/14
Act 5
I agree with John about Othello smothering Desdemona. I didn't think that Othello would actually bring himself to kill his own wife. It seemed like he didn't really want to do it because he kept kissing her and asking her to confess. I also found it strange how Desdemona was dead, then came back to life for a few seconds, and then died again.
At first I found it strange that Iago decided to kill Roderigo instead of Cassio. This came up in class and we said that it was because Roderigo is a bigger threat to Iago than Cassio. This makes sense because Roderigo knows all about his plan and he could have ratted him out.
It seems like Othello is going to find out the truth about Iago but he probably won't knowing Shakespeare. Emilia started to tell Othello that Desdemona is innocent and that somebody lied to him about the whole thing. However, it's a little late for that now.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 19:42:43 GMT -5
Post by eointunney on Jun 2, 2014 19:42:43 GMT -5
Eoin Tunney
Mr. Thomas
English 11
2 June 2014
C. The part where Othello killed Desdemona was extremely confusing. Othello strangled Desdemona pretty hard and it seemed all but certain that she was dead. When Emilia walks in she hers noises coming from Desdemona, and Desdemona begins to speak again. But a few seconds later Desdemona drops dead. I don’t understand how in the world Desdemona could begin speaking again and also breathing. If she was able to talk and breathe, she was definitely able to live. Her death just seemed really fake.
D. When Emilia walks in to Othello’s room after Othello smoothers Desdemona, Desdemona magically wakes up and begins speaking with Emilia. The one thing that I found odd was that Desdemona said that Othello didn’t kill her and this was all her fault. She also says that she is ready to go to heaven. I found this odd because Desdemona blames this whole thing on herself, which shows how loyal she is towards Othello.
E. For some reason, I feel Emilia is going to play a huge role in the next few scenes. When Othello tells her that her husband told him about Desdemona and Cassio’s affair, she didn’t seem too surprised. It seems that she now knows what Iago is up to and she may have a big role in ruining his plan, but since this is a place by Shakespeare none of this will happen and everyone will probably end up dead.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 19:49:00 GMT -5
Post by bourdonm15 on Jun 2, 2014 19:49:00 GMT -5
Matthew Bourdon
Mr. Thomas
English 11
6/2/14
A. It really makes me happy to see that Iago finally gets caught in the act. I immediately compared it to when Gatsby got caught about his real “behind the scenes” life. “Disprove this villain, if thou be’st a man. He says thou told’st him that his wife was false. I know thou didst not. Thou’rt not such a villain.” (Page 251) This quote is Iago’s wife Emilia confronting him about what Othello told her. It is great to finally see Iago get caught for the snake that he really is. It really shows that you can never live a lie for a long period because it will always catch up to you some way or another.
B. I found it pretty sad how Desdemona dies at the end for stupidity. “Nobody. I myself. Farewell. Commend me to my kind lord. O, farewell. (She Dies.)” (Page 245). She really did remain faithful to Othello and loved him with all of her heart so it is sad to see that he killed her in the end. Not only does she die but it also signifies Othello’s death in spirit. Since they both were such a vital part of each other’s lives, it is safe to say that they each lost a part of their spiritual connection together. Since she dies, he does also and he will not be the same after this considering he is the one that killed her.
I. I agree with John’s comment on Othello’s comments. What was the purpose of them and what was he trying to imply?
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 21:07:56 GMT -5
Post by georgebaroudos on Jun 2, 2014 21:07:56 GMT -5
George Baroudos
Mr. Thomas
English 11
2 June 2014
A- Othello ultimately loses it in this scene. Othello smothers his own wife and doesn’t even have proof! Othello becomes so focused on killing his wife it is scary. Othello doesn’t even realize Emilia was knocking on the door frantically. This should scare the audience. Othello becomes so enraged and mesmorized by the killing of his wife he cannot focus on anything else. Often times when I do my homework I become consumed and I am able to block out all of the small stuff. It comes easy as time progresses, it is just scary that he can become so consumed.
D- “O damned Iago! O inhuman dog!” (74). The words of Roderigo defy the usual talks of Iago. Iago is known as honest Iago and Roderigo does not follow this precedent. Roderigo realizes the true nature of Iago and unfortunately it is too late. I do find it funny that Roderigo is known as an idiot and he is the only one who can see past Iago’s fake appearance. Sometimes the most unexpected people see the most. Just because someone is not as intelligent does not mean they are not observant. Roderigo was taken advantage of and ultimately killed and it is horrible.
I- Iago is able to manipulate Roderigo in a similar way as Tom Buchanan is able to manipulate George. Iago and Tom are both intelligent and prey on the not so intelegent in order to get what they want. Manipulation is a talent many few master. This allows those who have the talent to use people as a pathway to get what they want. They find no shame in what they do and they are able to do it with ease and no remorse. Walking over people is not a problem for them and it is done. Tom does it for a girl why Iago does it for a life.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 22:31:02 GMT -5
Post by Sgarlato on Jun 2, 2014 22:31:02 GMT -5
Stephen Sgarlato
Mr. Thomas
English 11
6/2/13
A. From my opinion, Othello kind of got out hand in this Act because I think for the biggest reason he killed Desdemona when she didn’t even do anything. Like he has been coming to some really harsh conclusions and now he has gotten to the point where he is killing people. And now Cassio is next, so we are going to see in these next couple of scenes some serious action because now Iago’s plan is all unraveling.
I. I would like to respond to John Marano’s question when he says why Othello would say he has to kill Desdemona just to save other men. I think what he means when he says this is that if he kills her and gets his nerves out on her because he was annoyed with her tha other people wont suffer his rath.
C. I don’t understand how Emilia is so tough when she finds put Othello killed Desdemona. Like and when he draws his sword on her, she just acts normal and tells him to give her his best shot. Like she is completely not scared of him at all.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 22:34:47 GMT -5
Post by djmat on Jun 2, 2014 22:34:47 GMT -5
Osman Mat
Mr. Thomas
English 11
2 June 2014
A. This is such a weird situation that Othello's in because he is telling Emilia the entire truth but she does not really believe what he is saying until she actually confronts Iago. What is most interesting is what is going to happen to Iago. Emilia has caught him and now we just have to see what she is going to do about it. I feel like he is going to get away with it because throughout the entire play he has been able to succeed in all his plans.
I. To answer Tunney's question, Desdemona was dead and it is physcially impossible for her to talk after she has been suffocated the way she was but the scene had to be dramatic so and as a play it is being seen by many people. You do not really think about the entire picture when you are watching a play. Also you have to just pretend that this situation could actually happen in real life to understand it.
C. Emilia calls for help after Desdemona dies but is Othello arrested? The play does not really clarify that because right after, she runs to question Iago. Also i would like to know why Othello did not question Cassio when Desdemona was swearing that she had never cheated on Othello and had never given her handkerchief to Cassio. The way things happen in this chapter are just a bit weird and do not make complete sense.
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Act 5
Jun 2, 2014 23:40:13 GMT -5
Post by scanley73 on Jun 2, 2014 23:40:13 GMT -5
I. In response to John’s confusion about why Othello said he was preventing her from hurting other men, he isn’t in his right mind so e is saying anything he can to justify killing his wife as a non selfish act. He is simply trying to make sense of the situation but he can’t because he has obviously been thrown into madness. To him he thinks that he is ridding the world of someone who will cause harm to others and I think he really does see it that way because as I mentioned he has lost his mind
C. Something that I don’t understand is how Desdemona dies. If Othello was smothering her and that didn’t kill her then shouldn’t she be okay after he releases her. We see her talk to Emilia after the fact so she can clearly breathe so what is the cause of her death. It just doesn’t make sense to me because since she is no longer being smothered air should be getting to her lungs and she should be able to survive now.
A. It seems as though for the first time things aren’t going Iago’s way. It seems as though Emilia is about to sway Othello into believing that Iago has tricked him. However Othello may be too mad to listen to reason and therefore will side with Iago. But now that Emilia knows Iago told Othello this, if she survives will she try and blame him for all that has happened at Cyprus?
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Act 5
Jun 3, 2014 0:06:40 GMT -5
Post by rodriguezj15 on Jun 3, 2014 0:06:40 GMT -5
Joel Rodriguez
Mr. Thomas
English 11
June 2, 2014
Othello Act 5
D. My favorite line of the act was the last line in scene one, “This is the night that either makes me or fordoes me quite (lnV.i.150).” First of all it’s in a little aside said by Iago, right after he kills Roderigo and blames Cassio’s attack on Bianca. What he’s trying to say is that if everything goes by plan he would be named general of Venice. But there are a couple of flaws in his plan, for example Cassio not killing Roderigo and Desdemona having just enough breath to say one line. But his Iago’s plan was all concocted out of his greed and jealousy. So it would be his greed and jealousy that would make him general or lead to his fall, like every other tragedy.
F. I feel pity for Roderigo who Iago took everything from, literally. Iago took his money, jewelry, land, and life. And to add insult to injury that was why Iago killed him, “Live Roderigo, he calls me to a restitution large of gold and jewels that I bobbed from him” (lnV.i.15–17). But it was sort of Roderigo who led to Iago’s demise, because his inability to kill Cassio.
E. I think Emilia is probably the only Shakespeare character in this play besides Iago and the clown, who has a brain. Iago’s plan involved the manipulation of everyone around him, but the one reason he got so far, is that no one thought for a minute, “He might be lying, let me find solid evidence.” I know this is lead to a lot of irony, but it can get frustrating.
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Act 5
Jun 3, 2014 20:16:56 GMT -5
Post by johnrice on Jun 3, 2014 20:16:56 GMT -5
John Rice
Mr. Thomas
English 11
June 2 2014
Discussion Board
*LAST ONE!! ITS BEEN REAL MR. T*
C. THe death of Desdemona was extremely confusing. It seemed as though Othello was interrupted by Emelia as he was killing Desdemona, and that was the wrong person to get caught by. As Emelia so urgently has to enter the room, she finds Desdemona dead, or unconscience, and then all of a sudden Desdemona wakes up! How convenient. It was so confusing because Emelia is flipping out, and she knows it was Othello because he was the only one there. And then after Desdemona speaks a few lines, she dies again. Such a confusing death, thanks Billy Shakespeare.
I. I agree with the comments of John Marano. I really didnt think that Othello was going to be able to actually kill Desdemona. I really thought someone was going to stop him or that he wouldnt be able to bring himself to do it. I think it really showed how enraged this man was because he actually felt strong enough to bring himself to kill the love of his life. THis goes to further prove how well Iago carried out his plan, which brings me to my next comment.
C. Iago. Iago is a real villian. He is the definition of a villan. I hate him. But he did a stellar job in conducting himself and ultimately getting what he wanted. He was so calculated in all of his actions and his plan was so well devised. To further prove his arrogance yet collectiveness in this whole process, he told Othello in the closing lines, basically "i have nothing more to say on this matter". He basically said, I did what I did, its over, and you couldnt stop me. It really was Iago trying to validate to himself that even after Othello took his position he still was able to beat him.
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Act 5
Jun 3, 2014 22:52:57 GMT -5
Post by fotia15 on Jun 3, 2014 22:52:57 GMT -5
a. The ending was a little disappointing. Othello kills himself.. which i had a feeling was going to happen because he killed his wife for no good reason. Shakespear makes appoint of at least 1 person killing them self during the play. I feel bad for the wife in the end because at the end of the day she still loved her husband more than anything in the world. Othello was just so overwhelmed by this thought that she would go against him that it drove him mad and he fell apart. In the end othello and his wife still loved each other very much and i guess thats all that matters. Othello took the easy way out and hoped to join his love in the after life, also because there was no way in hell he was going to live with himself after killing his wife.
B. Im upset with othello that he wasnt more inraged out iago for fucking him over. Iago basically played him for a fool and toyed with his mind, in order to create this illusion that dez was cheating on him. He deserved a good beating by othello before he killed him self. I think he should have tried to stick around longer and made sure the iago was punished in the best way possible. Iago deserves nothing but the worst, his hands are covered in blood directly and indirectly.
I. At the end of the book it never makes clear what iagos reasoning was to doing all this. why would anyone end a book like that? it just like having a detective go around and find dead people and not ever find out why the person died. I didnt like the end ing to much. I hoped for a better one, like something that really pushed me off me feet but it didnt happen. i dont know if adding this fact would help conclude this story in a more pleasant way.
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